Food, again- nutren gamebird vs. Feather fixer?

[Sydney65]

Crude Protein, minimum	21.0%
Lysine, minimum	1.0%
Methionine, minimum	0.3%
Crude Fat, minimum	3.0%
Crude Fiber, maximum	5.0%
Calcium, minimum	0.95%
Calcium, maximum	1.45%
Phosphorus, minimum	0.8%
Salt, minimum	0.35%
Salt, maximum	0.55%
Sodium, minimum	0.15%
Sodium, maximum	0.25%

for the elders...which are actually, what, yearlings? I like the feather grower bc it has actual green stuff in it but it was suggested to be too much fat?
Crude Protein minimum 18.0%, Lysine minimum 0.75%, Methionine minimum 0.35%, Crude Fat minimum 4.0%, Crude Fiber maximum 6.0%, Calcium minimum 3.25%, Calcium maximum 3.75%, Phosphorus minimum 0.45%, Salt minimum 0.25%, Salt maximum 0.65%, Sodium minimum 0.15%, Sodium maximum 0.23%, Manganese minimum 110 ppm, Selenium minimum 0.30 ppm, Vitamin A minimum 3,300 IU/lb, Vitamin D3 minimum 1,000 IU/lb, Vitamin E minimum 20 IU/lb, Lactobacillus acidophilus minimum 5.1 MIL CFU/LB, Lactobacillus casei minimum 5.1 MIL CFU/LB, Bifidobacterium thermophilum minimum 5.1 MIL CFU/LB, Enterococcus Faecium minimum 5.1 MIL CFU/

Or is that too much calcium for the boys?

 

[R2elk]

Crude Protein, minimum	21.0%
Lysine, minimum	1.0%
Methionine, minimum	0.3%
Crude Fat, minimum	3.0%
Crude Fiber, maximum	5.0%
Calcium, minimum	0.95%
Calcium, maximum	1.45%
Phosphorus, minimum	0.8%
Salt, minimum	0.35%
Salt, maximum	0.55%
Sodium, minimum	0.15%
Sodium, maximum	0.25%

for the elders...which are actually, what, yearlings? I like the feather grower bc it has actual green stuff in it but it was suggested to be too much fat?
Crude Protein minimum 18.0%, Lysine minimum 0.75%, Methionine minimum 0.35%, Crude Fat minimum 4.0%, Crude Fiber maximum 6.0%, Calcium minimum 3.25%, Calcium maximum 3.75%, Phosphorus minimum 0.45%, Salt minimum 0.25%, Salt maximum 0.65%, Sodium minimum 0.15%, Sodium maximum 0.23%, Manganese minimum 110 ppm, Selenium minimum 0.30 ppm, Vitamin A minimum 3,300 IU/lb, Vitamin D3 minimum 1,000 IU/lb, Vitamin E minimum 20 IU/lb, Lactobacillus acidophilus minimum 5.1 MIL CFU/LB, Lactobacillus casei minimum 5.1 MIL CFU/LB, Bifidobacterium thermophilum minimum 5.1 MIL CFU/LB, Enterococcus Faecium minimum 5.1 MIL CFU/

I would not worry about 4% fat. If you want to worry about fat, check out the fat content of BOSS or flax seed.

 

[Sydney65]

I would not worry about 4% fat. If you want to worry about fat, check out the fat content of BOSS or flax seed.

Thanks. 3.25-3.75 calcium ok for the boys?

 

[R2elk]

Thanks. 3.25-3.75 calcium ok for the boys?

Technically, no. That is the levels in layer feed. The boys will be better off with 1% to 2% calcium.

 

[Sydney65]

Decided to go with Purina Flock Raiser. Even though the littles still get fed separately in the brooder, I catch them nosing into the big bird dishes, so a better trade of for them. I have os cal out for Rosie-do I take that away once she's done laying for the yr or cont to offer through the winter? Read something abt "hollow leg" in hens d/t the cal they lose laying. It sounds like Bella2 and Mouse are both comeback -comeback females. - and what's the salt for?

Crude Protein MIN 20.00 %
Lysine MIN 1.10 %
Crude Fat MIN 3.50 %
Crude Fiber MAX. 5.00 %
Calcium (Ca) MIN 0.80 %
Calcium (Ca) MAX 1.30 %
Phosphorus (P) MIN 0.60 %
Vitamin A MIN 7,000 IU/LB
Vitamin E MIN 14 IU/LB
Methionine MIN 0.55 %
Salt (NaCl) MIN 0.30 %
Salt (NaCl) MAX 0.80 %
Sodium (Na) MAX 0.55 %

 

[R2elk]

Decided to go with Purina Flock Raiser. Even though the littles still get fed separately in the brooder, I catch them nosing into the big bird dishes, so a better trade of for them. I have os cal out for Rosie-do I take that away once she's done laying for the yr or cont to offer through the winter? Read something abt "hollow leg" in hens d/t the cal they lose laying. It sounds like Bella2 and Mouse are both comeback -comeback females. - and what's the salt for?

Crude Protein MIN 20.00 %
Lysine MIN 1.10 %
Crude Fat MIN 3.50 %
Crude Fiber MAX. 5.00 %
Calcium (Ca) MIN 0.80 %
Calcium (Ca) MAX 1.30 %
Phosphorus (P) MIN 0.60 %
Vitamin A MIN 7,000 IU/LB
Vitamin E MIN 14 IU/LB
Methionine MIN 0.55 %
Salt (NaCl) MIN 0.30 %
Salt (NaCl) MAX 0.80 %
Sodium (Na) MAX 0.55 %

I leave the oyster shell out all year long. If they don't need it, they don't eat it. Salt is necessary for every living thing. Even people on low sodium diets need a certain amount of salt in their bodies or they would die.

In the case of turkeys, it has been shown to be a factor causing aggression in turkeys. Many years ago, we used to add salt to the water to curb picking at bloody spots on chickens.