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I am so glad there are like-minded individuals here. My daughter says I am "stuck up" about food and she is afraid to invite me to a barbecue at her boyfriend's house because she is afraid I won't eat what they serve.

I am ethical; I am not rude. Accepting the offerings of a family one time is not going to lend too much support to the factory farming industry. I did, however, send over some of my heritage pastured beef- after trying it, they asked my daughter for the farmer's number.

It happens a little at a time.
 
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You MET her? Now I am jealous. I signed her birthday card!!

Yup, I went to a lecture and book signing she held in Birmingham. I was still in High School at the time, and I got grounded for a month because I was three hours late getting home. I waited around for hours to get a chance to chat with her and get a more personal book signing.
Totally worth it! She is such a remarkable person.
 
Keeping chickens allows me to have complete control over eggs, my main source of protien. (I'm a lacto-ovo vegetarian) In a year or two, I plan to get a miniature jersey cow for the family's milk supply. I know it's a lot of work, in high school I bottle raised a hostien and had her for many years. She got to be a giant, but was wonderful and well worth the time and effort. I want a mini jersey because lets face it, they eat a lot less than a holstien and produce a ton of milk. I love going to the farmer's markets around here and getting good local produce. This week they had local honey, it was so good! Our apple orcahrd is just starting to take off. I know a lot of people think you can't grow apples in So. Cal, but you would be wrong. Even though it hardly drops below 40 here and is usually in the high 70's most of the year, there are a hundred or so apples that grow in warm weather.
 
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Nothing, which is why if we do meat birds next year I won't get the cornish x.


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I guess there will be a difference. People on this board tend to raise their birds with a better quality of life than most factory farms. Still not getting crosses.
 
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I had to do a google cause I thought seed savers was owned my M&M Mars, but it's not, it's Seeds of Change that is owned by them.

Is that necessarily a bad thing with Seeds of Change? You won't ever catch me saying a cross thing about them considering they gave me a grant for an organic project. Regardless of who may own them (and I didn't know that about M&M Mars), they do a lot of good things and what they sell is organic (unless something has changed recently). They support growers and community groups all over the country. They gave me personally seeds from a couple hundred varieties....

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This is pretty much it. The "industrial organic". I used to think I was doing a good thing buying organic, but now I see I can do much more. Why should I put more money into billion dollar corporations who really don't care about organic, they care about making a buck. Business is business, and I understand that, but as a consumer it's my job to decide what business to support. I remember when the 'green clean' stuff came out. Environmentally safe windex for example. This is a good thing, right? Well if they can make the same windex environmentally safe, why still make the other not so good for the environment windex? Because they want everyone's money, those who care about such things and those who don't. It's not about being responsible it's about the bottom line, and I don't like that way of thinking. A few links on who owns organics
http://nutritionwonderland.com/2009/02/organic-corporate-hierarchy/
http://awesome.good.is/features/009/009buyingorganic.html

-Amanda
 
About time you folks caught up
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My DD has been allergic...er intolerant to MSG for all her life. After 5 years of lupus schleroderma and every other imaginable disease scare....I did an elimination diet on her when she was 9. Figured it out and have been creeping into EXACTLY this for the last 4 years. She's 13 now, and healthy as a horse. Only minor irrepairable damage...ADD. She was diagnosed last year after struggling for YEARS and I would NOT have her lablelled as a 'problem' child. We homeschool now too. May as well cut the world umbilical cord the rest of the way...we're working on complete self-sustaining energy/food/whatever else we can. It's a slow process on some things. Ours is not a "green" movement...it's about FREEDOM. Free from sickness, dependance, and others putting stuff on and IN us we DO NOT want. I got mad, and now we're fighting back against the entire corporate world one little piece at a time. Some say I'm crazy...but I bet I outlive them!!
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So what will you get as far as meat birds? I want to raise our own chickens for meat, but fear that I am just supporting the same industry from a different angle. Have any of you done research on what chickens to order and where to get them?

Who knew "big brother" would show up in the food industry, hu?

We get a lot of groceries from Azurestandard.com. I am part of a co-op that orders together and we literally meet a truck in an alley to get our stuff. They specialize in natural and bulk foods. I have gotten the impression that some natural food grocery stores try to support conscientious growers and suppliers. What do you all think? Does Trader Joe's buy from good suppliers or are their products just as bad as the big companies?

Someone already gave the eatwild web site. They list all your local farmers that have grass fed animals and products for sale.

We also hunt. Many have called me a murderer in the past, but I am sensing a swing in the pendulum... Have talked to several friends of the opposite sort of political persuasion who would suddenly like to know more about hunting their own meat. Hmm...

Those of you who have made others mad with your concerns. Keep doing that. Even though they are offended by your concerns, they will think about them later or hear about it in another way and it will get them thinking...

Good thread. We need to share information as much as possible.
 
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Well, right now I live in suburbia, so I am thinking one of the rooster assortments that hatcheries have available. Once we get some land I will keep roosters and just breed my own. Hatcheries are not totally innocent, but I am unaware of any options where I am. That's not to say I won't continue to do research and see if I can find a better option locally.
 
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Is that necessarily a bad thing with Seeds of Change? You won't ever catch me saying a cross thing about them considering they gave me a grant for an organic project. Regardless of who may own them (and I didn't know that about M&M Mars), they do a lot of good things and what they sell is organic (unless something has changed recently). They support growers and community groups all over the country. They gave me personally seeds from a couple hundred varieties....

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This is pretty much it. The "industrial organic". I used to think I was doing a good thing buying organic, but now I see I can do much more. Why should I put more money into billion dollar corporations who really don't care about organic, they care about making a buck. Business is business, and I understand that, but as a consumer it's my job to decide what business to support. I remember when the 'green clean' stuff came out. Environmentally safe windex for example. This is a good thing, right? Well if they can make the same windex environmentally safe, why still make the other not so good for the environment windex? Because they want everyone's money, those who care about such things and those who don't. It's not about being responsible it's about the bottom line, and I don't like that way of thinking. A few links on who owns organics
http://nutritionwonderland.com/2009/02/organic-corporate-hierarchy/
http://awesome.good.is/features/009/009buyingorganic.html

-Amanda

I make my own or use natural cleaning products. I use vinigar for just about everything. Tea tree oil is a powerful dinfectent, and so is grapfruit seed oil. I still use bleach for certain things, but not much and not often. It's amazing how much money i save. It all started when my dog started having wheezing attacks when I would clean the house. She couldn't breathe, so I stopped using manufactured or chemical cleaners. My brothers dog cost us thousands in his medical bills until we started making him his own food. He hasn't had one health problem since.
 
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