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I don't believe large scale factory farming is much of a "farm" in the traditional sense, and do not see that as offensive, but fact. It has absolutely become more "factory" than farm. It was not intended as an insult. And I did NOT say that they were "for the most part" less. Those are your words, not mine. My exact words were "...So bottom line, in my opinion: Are there many factory "farms" that have appalling conditions both for the animals and the resulting meat? Yes. Are there factory farms that have ethical standards and clean facilities? Yes. Is it easy to find out which is which? Not really. ..." No part in there did I say "for the most part" anything. I know nothing about where you work and wouldn't make such presumptions. I simply said that many factory farms are appalling and many are clean and ethical. It's totally your call to decide which you fall in, but the fact is, there ARE both. You would be naive to think that you're in a perfect industry, none of us are.
I work for an exterminator. I don't know about where you live, but around here, exterminators are notorious for having a bad reputation. The big national companies do a lousy job, are overpriced and tend to "trick" customers into unnecessary contracts. Some of the small private companies hire idiot kids who have no experience or are not properly licensed and do a lousy job. My boss (also my ex) has been in business for 24 years. He's very thorough, extremely knowledgeable in his field, and does very effective work. I get lots of new customers every day, who are used to being screwed over by Terminex or Orkin, or some local deadbeat company, and call us with apprehensions about our field. I hear it every day. It doesn't offend me. Why would it? Because they're "insulting my field"? They aren't insulting us, I'm happy to show them why we are different. When I'm in social groups (like this, or in person) and people talk about my industry, I have to agree, many ARE crooked or ineffective in my field, it's TRUE. Many are not however, and so I explain that to them.
You said it didn't raise a hackle, but clearly you must be somewhat offended to explain twice why you are offended. Please know that I am not referring to YOU or where you work, that would be absurd. What I said was pretty clear: There ARE factory farm conditions that are appalling, there ARE, whether you like it or not. And likewise, there are factory farm conditions that are clean and ethical, as I stated the first time. Why not just agree with that reality rather than blindy defending factory farms that you haven't worked for? After all, all you really know is your own experiences, right? So please don't feel offended that I have experienced some other conditions. I think I was more than fair by NOT generalizing the industry, I simply said there were both.
I don't believe large scale factory farming is much of a "farm" in the traditional sense, and do not see that as offensive, but fact. It has absolutely become more "factory" than farm. It was not intended as an insult. And I did NOT say that they were "for the most part" less. Those are your words, not mine. My exact words were "...So bottom line, in my opinion: Are there many factory "farms" that have appalling conditions both for the animals and the resulting meat? Yes. Are there factory farms that have ethical standards and clean facilities? Yes. Is it easy to find out which is which? Not really. ..." No part in there did I say "for the most part" anything. I know nothing about where you work and wouldn't make such presumptions. I simply said that many factory farms are appalling and many are clean and ethical. It's totally your call to decide which you fall in, but the fact is, there ARE both. You would be naive to think that you're in a perfect industry, none of us are.
I work for an exterminator. I don't know about where you live, but around here, exterminators are notorious for having a bad reputation. The big national companies do a lousy job, are overpriced and tend to "trick" customers into unnecessary contracts. Some of the small private companies hire idiot kids who have no experience or are not properly licensed and do a lousy job. My boss (also my ex) has been in business for 24 years. He's very thorough, extremely knowledgeable in his field, and does very effective work. I get lots of new customers every day, who are used to being screwed over by Terminex or Orkin, or some local deadbeat company, and call us with apprehensions about our field. I hear it every day. It doesn't offend me. Why would it? Because they're "insulting my field"? They aren't insulting us, I'm happy to show them why we are different. When I'm in social groups (like this, or in person) and people talk about my industry, I have to agree, many ARE crooked or ineffective in my field, it's TRUE. Many are not however, and so I explain that to them.
You said it didn't raise a hackle, but clearly you must be somewhat offended to explain twice why you are offended. Please know that I am not referring to YOU or where you work, that would be absurd. What I said was pretty clear: There ARE factory farm conditions that are appalling, there ARE, whether you like it or not. And likewise, there are factory farm conditions that are clean and ethical, as I stated the first time. Why not just agree with that reality rather than blindy defending factory farms that you haven't worked for? After all, all you really know is your own experiences, right? So please don't feel offended that I have experienced some other conditions. I think I was more than fair by NOT generalizing the industry, I simply said there were both.