Food Scraps?

[chad-o]

Just discovered that it's actually illegal in the uk to give any kitchen waste to poultry either raw or cooked


Silly government

http://www.defra.gov.uk/ahvla-en/disease-control/abp/collect-feed/ban-kitchen-scraps-pet/

Beware of the kitchen scrap police!!!! LOL

 

[ScouterJoe]

Beware of the kitchen scrap police!!!! LOL

Wow, and I thought the US government was bad. Mine always get scraps. It keeps my refrigerator cleaned out. I do love giving them cottage cheese though. It's just a blast to watch.

 

[Sonya9]

Just discovered that it's actually illegal in the uk to give any kitchen waste to poultry either raw or cooked

Silly government

http://www.defra.gov.uk/ahvla-en/disease-control/abp/collect-feed/ban-kitchen-scraps-pet/

Keep in mind Britain had the first known outbreak of mad-cow disease so they have good reason to be concerned about farm animals being fed all sorts of weird things. The article mentions the concern about feeding poultry the meat of birds from other countries where the avian flu is a problem.

They think mad cow disease started because the British farmers started feeding bone meal to their cattle, it is NOT a disease that should infect herbavores. Apparently cattle farmers in the U.K. were buying bone meal from places like India, in India people were scavenging bones from any available source and it is believed that the bones of humans carrying the brain disease (since dead humans are burned and then often dumped into the rivers) were mixed in with the bone meal fed to British cattle and that is what introduced mad cow disease.

 

[Cuccismith]

Our chickens love oatmeal and meal worms (duh) tomatoes chopped up so they can get the seeds. I just can't feed them chicken or turkey... to weird. If the kitchen scraps are too big they don't touch them.

 

[Bert2368]

Just discovered that it's actually illegal in the uk to give any kitchen waste to poultry either raw or cooked


Silly government

http://www.defra.gov.uk/ahvla-en/disease-control/abp/collect-feed/ban-kitchen-scraps-pet/

"If the law supposes that," said Mr. Bumble, squeezing his hat emphatically in both hands, "the law is a *** - a idiot".
-Charles Dickens, "Oliver Twist"

 

[steny03]

Keep in mind Britain had the first known outbreak of mad-cow disease so they have good reason to be concerned about farm animals being fed all sorts of weird things. The article mentions the concern about feeding poultry the meat of birds from other countries where the avian flu is a problem.

They think mad cow disease started because the British farmers started feeding bone meal to their cattle, it is NOT a disease that should infect herbavores.  Apparently cattle farmers in the U.K. were buying bone meal from places like India, in India people were scavenging bones from any available source and it is believed that the bones of humans carrying the brain disease (since dead humans are  burned and then often dumped into the rivers) were mixed in with the bone meal fed to British cattle and that is what introduced mad cow disease.

It was caused by feeding cattle infected bone meal made from other infected cattle or sheep. Not human remains.

 

[FredsDadTiny]

Keep in mind Britain had the first known outbreak of mad-cow disease so they have good reason to be concerned about farm animals being fed all sorts of weird things. The article mentions the concern about feeding poultry the meat of birds from other countries where the avian flu is a problem.

They think mad cow disease started because the British farmers started feeding bone meal to their cattle, it is NOT a disease that should infect herbavores.  Apparently cattle farmers in the U.K. were buying bone meal from places like India, in India people were scavenging bones from any available source and it is believed that the bones of humans carrying the brain disease (since dead humans are  burned and then often dumped into the rivers) were mixed in with the bone meal fed to British cattle and that is what introduced mad cow disease.

If you read the defra link it says it's to curb bird flu. It's bans not only feeding meat but veg too.

 

[Sonya9]

It was caused by feeding cattle infected bone meal made from other infected cattle or sheep. Not human remains.

Those "other cattle" got infected somehow and it is not a disease that ocurres in bovines, or at least it hadn't up until the outbreak discovery. See below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovine_spongiform_encephalopathy

 

[steny03]

Those "other cattle" got infected somehow and it is not a disease that ocurres in bovines, or at least it hadn't up until the outbreak discovery. See below:

The disease is called a 'prion' and similar diseases occur naturally in many other animals. It is a bovine disease, not a human one transmitted to cattle. One such similar disease is the 'Chronic wasting disease' in deer in North America, which is also a prion and affects the animal similarly. People only get this prion by eating infected animals in both mad cow and the chronic wasting disease.

Whoever wrote that paper is just exploring a theory, and not a proven fact.

Anyways...we're not going to agree on this and I don't want to derail the original thread too much. The point is that you should feel free to feed your chickens other chickens if you want...as long as everything you feed them is healthy. I don't feed my chickens any kind of chicken meat...but that is more because I feel squeamish about it, and not because I'm afraid of any diseases, etc.

 

[Sonya9]

The disease is called a 'prion' and similar diseases occur naturally in many other animals. It is a bovine disease, not a human one transmitted to cattle.

Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease is a brain destroying prion and it is human in origin, about 1 in every million people ends up with it spontaneously and if someone were to receive blood from those individuals they can be infected. It is related to the disease that affected cannibal tribes as well, eating tainted human flesh will also lead to infection.

Diseases cross between species all of the time, bird flu can mutate and infect humans and human diseases absolutely can mutate and infect different animal species. Since CJD has been documented in humans for quite some time and has show up regularly in populations all over the world, since it can transmitted by blood transfusions, and of course tribes practicing cannibalism were widely infected with a similar prion of human origin by eating infected human meat, then it seems quite possible that it could jump from humans (where the disease was well documented) to bovines (where it had NOT been found until a few years ago).

Regardless of course that has nothing to do with feeding chickens healthy grains/vegetables/fruits from our kitchen. If I bought meat that could potentially be contaminated with the avian flu virus then yes, unsanitary kitchen procedures in which the food for the chickens came in contact with surfaces used to prepare infected poultry could be a concern. Likewise a couple of decades ago all pork products in the U.S. were a SEVERE risk to pet cats and dogs as much of the U.S. pork was infected with a disease that would kill cats/dogs within 2 days if they came in contact with the raw meat or surfaces the meat had been on.