FoodKiller's chicken journal!

I just got 2 bobwhite quails, at least i think they are, they are colinus species for sure, but are they bobwhites? The male has white colored face and the female has brown.

That dirty chicken farm with the weird people still had few quails left, so i bought a couple of them, for 20 euro, or 25-30 in dollars.

Like i always do, i didnt have where to house them, so i left them 3 days in the pet travel box where they got even more dirty and smelly
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if i try to build things before i buy an animal i think i will not have the same passion on building it, and it will take me ages to build it, so i first buy the poor animals.

When i got them home, i started building their quail coop, i used an old seat, i have unlimited access to those old seats, i have more than 40 of them.. dont ask. It was an easy task but i painted it so many times i needed 3 days to finish it. But i like my work at last. I attached something that looks like a nest for them, i loved building that, i used some compressed wood that i have laying around and i painted it from the outside.

So enough said, here are the pictures.





I put them in there 3 hours ago, and they were alert for about an hour, right now they are getting used to it. The male got in the nest where i placed rabbit hay and checked it out, the female is still a little alert but both ate from the feeder and drinked water, so i hope they will be allright.

See you soon.
 
Broody hens drama.

One of my brown egg layers, i think she is broody, she has a weird behavior for more than a month. I didnt notice what was wrong, i usually just go to their coop, lift up the roof and take the eggs, i didnt mind if a chicken was on the eggs, i just took them and leave the chicken with no eggs under her. I felt sad lately seeing that "Afterpee" was losing weight and also losing grip, she has became the "lonely hen" that poops her pants on the sight of the, now huge cockerel that always feels sexy. She seams to be looking for peace all day, even when they are free ranging, she is the first hen to go back in the chicken run
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Where is that super friendly full of life hen that i used to enjoy more than the others, what is wrong with her i wondered, is she going to die?

About one week ago i told my wife, lets make a test, i will stop collecting the eggs until they build up to see what happens. Two days later my wife says "hey they layed 3 eggs today and afterpee was sitting on them", what is wrong with women, i told her i will not collect the eggs but i didnt mean that she should collect them, we was supposed to be having a test
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, but my daughter had to eat an egg and i was not reminded to buy any from the super market for my tests sake.

From that day we didnt collect any eggs untill today, that the extreme wind turned my test to disaster again. I woke up about 7:45 in the morning and i see my chicken coop, open air, convertible, no roof. And the cockerel with all hens except "Afterpee" were enjoying the morning sun while dust bathing under a mantarine tree. The wind blew the roof with 10 pounds of rock over it away, leaving the coop open and the flock must had this escape plan in mind for long, because they did not miss the chance
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Afterpee was all alone inside the chicken run, depressed, the eggs(6) were in the open roof coop, exposed to anything, COLD
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poor Afterpee, your eggs are dead now, in my fridge.

I plan to build an extremely small coop with no run or exit, for Afterpee, and let her in there for 1 month with few eggs to see what happens. I dont know if her condition is like this because she is broody or maybe sick or just very afraid of the cockerel or just feels like she is at the bottom of the flock, but i am almost sure she will like spending some time in peace and silence without any pecking and cockerels youth feelings...

I hate the fact that whatever i do outdoors, i have to start thinking from the wind factor. WIND WIND WIND, UHHHHHH

Thats my chicken news
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PS: The quails, sleep outside of their nest so far in their first night
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Get in there birds, it took me 3 days to build it
 
Afterpee is not with us anymore. The most loyal and most social and lovely hen of my flock is DEAD.

Today i woke up in the morning 7:30 to go to work, pick up the olives from my familys olive trees for our olive oil. I was quiet not to wake up my daughter and my wife, i made me a coffee and light a cigarette, all i was listening for 15 minutes was crows in my yard, they seemed to be more than just 2 crows and they were so loud i am sure they were in my yard. When i opened the garage door they were gone. I thought it was weird, i like crows and keep an eye on them, but they never visited my yard so close. Then i got dressed quickly, prepared my car for the days job and i left my house to quickly get to work. In the olive field i was saying to my father and sister about the crows and that i thought it was weird. When we finished the days work, i passed by my parents house where i also told my mother about those weird crows.

How would i know. When i returned home at 17:00, the sun was down, the flock yelled to me, i went in my house and started checking things, "how is my baby" i said, fine she was playing with her toys, "how is my wife" fine she was preparing the house for christmass, the tree, the fake snowman. "How are my birds" (quails) they were fine in their cage eating. At last i said "how are my chickens?" my wife says, "they are fine!" with a meaning that i pay more attention to everything else but her (i was missing all day). From a far view everything seemed normal, as usual, all the chickens in the run and Afterpee not with them. I thought "how nice, she is broody sitting on her eggs" like i thought she was lately.

The coop has 2 small openings and i sneaked there quietly, i looked inside... and i see the eggs in the usual corner of the coop where Afterpee was usually sitting, but not today. Where is Afterpee? I looked at the other corner... "oh no!" i saw two legs and her body completely on the ground. I yelled to my wife "hey i think Afterpee died" with the most cold way i could, because i am trying to be prepared for my chicken deaths, but that was Afterpee not any chicken. I uncovered the coop and confirmed her death, this is when my wife came to see, "nooo man" she said "wake up Afterpee, come on!". I was standing there in front of the dead Afterpee like nothing bad happent. I said "she is dead, thats it, bring me a bag". The rest of the flock roamed the yard eating weeds and bugs, they were with her so they were not surprised she died, at least not at this time. They walked over her dead body to get to the yard. Afterpee was 100% dead and life continues for everyone around here.

I wore 1 use gloves, i put her in a bag, with the 3 eggs and i picked up the poo and some gravel from within the coop which is bottomless and went straight to the nearest garbage bin which is not too near if you wonder, i put the bag in, threw the gloves in, said "Goodbye Afterpee it was great to meet you and have you in my flock" closed the garbage bin lid, and returned home.

That all happent a while ago, now i am sitting here in front of the computer typing, i am still dirty from work, i had to make this post. She was my number 1 hen, the first i choose from the cage, my first hen, inside me i was not prepared for this. I can only express my feelings here on my journal, i must be strong in my real life and this is the way i face my best hens death. We will all die some day, but today, my best loved chicken died.

Why, i may wonder, shes behavior was unique in the flock, she loved us, she was the first chicken to do what i asked them and they all followed. Why Afterpee, but then i say, why not Afterpee, she was all that plus acting weird lately as i said to my yesterdays post here on my journal. Would it have to be another chicken of my flock? I would not prefer another hens death, but i feel that THIS hen should NOT die so SOON, i enjoyed her so much my dear journal. I was finding peace near her. She introduced me to the chicken world in the best way that can be done. From right now, my flocks meaning is completely different.

The questions in my mind are, was she sick, could i save her, is it my fault, should i not house the cockrel and the black hen with the brown ones, did i depress her, should i give her meditation since i noticed the difference in her behavior, was she sick, was she depressed, WTH DID I DO WRONG??

No matter what, i now have to close that post by returning to my real life, i have to go make a bath, get clean, have dinner and act normal like i dont care that much. I DO care that much tho.



The one in the front, which looks serious, is Afterpee.

Goodbye Afterpee, THANKS for spending the rest of your life in my yard, i am greatful and i will always remember you. Goodbye Afterpee!

Thanks to BYC for giving me the chance to have this journal and express my feelings. Priceless.
 
Death strikes again... this time it was the female quail
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Two days ago the temperature was 25C which is pretty much warm, sunny, and today is 3C and its snowing and stormy. This bird could not take it, even tho the quails were not out in the storm but in their cage which was in a outdoor room that has no door.

I woke up and heard the female bobwhite quail pretty song. It was too cold to go outside and feed them and the chickens, so after i made me a coffee, i surfed the internet and after few hours that the weather was not getting any better i went out and fed the chickens and run back inside, i didnt even check them out. I was running out in the storm with the chicken feed. Then before i close the door i said, why not bring the poor birds inside, they dont smell bad with this cage anymore. I put them inside and i noticed only the male was outside of their tiny coop.

I say to my wife, check it out, she is propably dead, i open their coop's back door, and there she was, dead as dead. Dead. RIP. I wore a glove and catched the bird to get rid of it and it was cold as a rock, totally ice cold. Poor little birds. Now the male was all alone.

I didnt feel good and i drove to the farm that i bought them from, with my sister. There was a man that i never saw before and when i asked him if they still have them he said, go see yourself. There was a room with 50 cages with many kinds of birds. When i found the bobwhite quail cage, there was 2 males and 1 female. I said yeaa. I went back in the shop and told him "yes you still have 3 left, i want the female" he replied, go get it, i asked him to come with me, i dont feel comfortable messing with other peoples staff without someone else beeing around. He didnt want to give it to me himself, i had to to catch it and take it from the cage. I open the cage and tried to reach for it, before it just got out of the cage and fly around the room full of cages. The man just kept standing there with his hands in his pockets while i was closing the cage. I was happy i found a mate for my bobwhite, but until i had the chance to catch it, it fell behind a stack of 10 big cages with hundrets of birds. WTH, he could catch it he had the chance, but he could not care less.

He told me that the bird will come out eventually sometime and i left my number for them to call me if they find it. He said the workers will propably find it.

When i was returning home all i thought of was my chickens that was all yet, they preferred to be out in the rain than their coop or shade. I didnt want another loss. So as soon as i returned, i took my mobile chicken cage and the chicken house and made a temporary coop in the room with no door that the birds were when the died, its warmer than the yard, and there is no rain. I also covered the chicken coop and the cage with windbreaking net, i placed rabbit hay in their coop too, to keep themselfs warmer, and i hope they make it through the storm.

I hate deaths, but who doesnt.

Thats my todays poultry and weather story.

Seen you soon, journal.
 
Oh no, I am so sorry for your losses. I have two coturnix quail myself and would be so sad if they perished. I just found one of my white leghorn hens sick this evening and moved her into a heated cage because it never got above freezing today and I know she will die if I don't do something when she is already sick.

Don't blame yourself. You cared for Afterpee enough that if you really thought she was sick you would have done something. Chicken owning will get easier and I enjoy your "journal". Happy holidays, foodkillah.
 
BigDaddy'sGurl :

Oh no, I am so sorry for your losses. I have two coturnix quail myself and would be so sad if they perished. I just found one of my white leghorn hens sick this evening and moved her into a heated cage because it never got above freezing today and I know she will die if I don't do something when she is already sick.

Don't blame yourself. You cared for Afterpee enough that if you really thought she was sick you would have done something. Chicken owning will get easier and I enjoy your "journal". Happy holidays, foodkillah.

Thanks for your kind words BigDaddy'sGurl, having a heated cage is an advantage, how is your leghorn doing?

We still feel Afterpee around here. My wife cooks for our baby girls main dish every second day, and the leftovers of this dish, that is usually boiled beef with potatoes, onion and carrots, are always fed to the flock. They love it and would fight for it if we didnt cut it in small pieces that they swallow at once. Since Afterpee's behavior changed, we always gave her this great treat secretly so she could enjoy it too, because the rest of the flock was quicker than her and she didnt have a chance for a bite.

Now, everytime we go out with the pot, we still look for Afterpee to give her the treat. She left great memories behind as she left, i wish she didnt suffer, but thinking of it, she propably suffered for a long time before she passed away, for some reason that i will never find out. It was clear something was wrong. Somebody told me that my two first brown hens, one was Afterpee and the other is the Dinosaur, were too old, because of the lost feathers on their necks. I dont want to believe him tho, i still believe this was caused by pecking in the farm's cage before i buy them, where they were packed for who knows how long. I am glad the Dinosaur and the rest of the flock looks very healthy and happy.

Two days after my last post, i decided to let the flock free range when that freezing storm was gone and i moved their little coop outside on the bigger, temporary run, again. I still have the mobile run in that room, incase the storm comes back. But i would only get them back in there if the temperature gets near freezing, because the mobile run is very small and they dont seem comfortable, only warm. Oh, stinky too
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i used a piece of a cardboard box as the runs floor to avoid the big mess in that room, which did however got very messy anyway. They ate their eggs while in there and the first thing they did when i free ranged them, was to eat dozens of stones. Calcium deficiency or just stone deficiency
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. Now that i know, next time i will provide them with some of the gardens soil to eat those tasty stones. I hope they will not have to go through this again.

Its still very cold and windy, but i collected 4 nice eggs this morning, 4 hens 4 eggs, the rooster told me they could not do any better than that so i believed him and let them free range all day.

Thats it for now. I will make another post for something i found out just now, instead of changing something i said in this post to hide myself.​
 
Being a honest person, i now officially feel i killed Afterpee AND the poor little bird. How?

I feed my flock with the remains of my daughters cooked food, that includes a whole boiled ONION

I also feed them ALL the raw potato peelings. I do that for months. Every since i got my chickens, i feed them raw potato peelings and boiled onion. One day its the potato peels, and the next day its the onion. What a stupid chicken keeper i am, why i didnt read that earlier?

They are not crazy about the potato peels neither the onion, but they eat it. The rooster always eats the boiled onion before the hens do, but sometimes they do take a bite or two. They never seemed ill tho. He always calls the hens to the potato peel "treat" when i give it to them.

I gave 2 small potato peels to the birds, the day before the female died. I also gave them a bunch of weeds from my garden, instead of choosing the ones that i know the hens love and are safe for sure.

By randomly searching in google i find out that the green stuff sometimes a potato peel has, is very toxic to chickens. I guess if its toxic its toxic to my quails too. So there could be some green stuff that i didnt notice, and i poisoned them.

That explains everything, almost, how did just one bird died and not both of them, and why isnt my whole flock sick from eating raw potato peels and boiled onion? I feel ashamed for giving them poisonous treats tho. I will be more careful of what my flock consumes from now on. Goodbye for now.

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I was looking the weather report yesterday and it said there will be another storm starting tonight untill tomorow night, so for tonight i housed the chickens in the mobile coop inside the room that i keep it.

Earlier in the day, it started raining and i thought it was the storm and came earlier than the weather report claimed, so i rushed and placed the chicken house in the mobile cage inside the room.

The dinosaur was out of her mind, most angry than ever. She was shouting and pecking everything on her way, ALL the other hens got in the chicken house to save themselfs, and the rooster stayed in the run to calm her down. They were so loud, they woke up my wife and my daughter. The rooster was shouting at the Dinosaur, and the Dinosaur just could not relax, it was obvious something was going on with her. I uncovered the top of the chicken house and forced the other hens in the run, while i was holding the Dinosaur from the legs, upside down to calm her down. Then i blocked the entrance of their house and after talking to her while i was checking her eyes, nose, mouth, under the wings and squeeze her belly near the exit where the eggs come out
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i let her in the chicken house on her own, and she relaxed. After an hour i checked back, and she layed an egg. She was calm so i let them all together again. The egg was propably the problem because it was not ordinary, it had a bumb, and she propably couldnt get rid of it with ease. After that everything was fine and they were quiet again. The poor baker was a little paranoid with the dinosaur because if someone wants to peck, they peck on the poor Baker.

The rain stopped and they spent the whole day free ranging until the dawn when i got them back inside just incase the storm comes.

When i say the word "inside" to my flock, everyone gets in the outside coop. So thats what i did tonight and then took them one by one inside. The rooster however is starting to behaving like a rooster and didnt like the idea of me catching him or messing around, maybe he thought that the Dinosaur will start behaving like a dinosaur
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We had an "argument" there and finally i catched him too. Now they sleep all together like a happy flock.

Goodnight journal!
 
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FoodKillah, don't feel so bad, I have given my chickens potato peels too. None of them died, I was lucky. I am sorry you lost Afterpee and the quail. It hurts to lose an animal that you have cared for. You can always come to BYC and tell us what you feel, we understand and have been there too. It is very interesting to read your journal for the insight you give us from your part of the world. No matter where we live, we all have the same interests and passions. We want shelter and food for our families and animals. We want the animals in our care to have the best life we can give them. I love the quail coop you made, it is so cute. The chicken coop and run you have built shows ingenuity using "found" materials. I used lumber that I dragged out of big construction trash boxes to build my coop, it sure saved me a lot of money.
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My husband gets real upset when we lose an animal. I tell him if you have livestock, sooner or later you will have dead stock. It is part of having animals that no body likes. Keep posting, I love reading about your little flock.
 

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