Fowl Pox/Pus oozing from both eyes!

[sammi]

yes..saline solution and antibiotic eye ointment..(terramycin)...other eye treatments:

http://www.firststatevetsupply.com/store/

diluted betadine or blue kote on combs and wattles.

info about Pox:

http://fowlfacts.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=afflictiondiseaseff&action=display&thread=1484


I agree about the problem with the water..they can pick up bacteria and protozoa.

 

[Sillystunt]

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dear lord, it's like the chicken pox's. it runs it's course in 3 weeks and then they are immune. The scabs dried still have to be cleaned out the pen so you don't get it again.

If yours are dropping like flies it might be something else!

OP, i have the same thing happening. I am gonna do the saline solution. DONT CULL OVER FOWL POX! please~ I had one with it and not one single other chicken got it! EVERYONE LIVED!

There is an immunization you can give but it's really not advised unless pox become a problem.

LOL, immunizations prevent not treat!

Giving it an immuniztion when it becomes a problem is like giving your kid the chicken pox vacc when it has chicken poxs. Thanks for the laugh

 

[Kittymomma]

LOL, immunizations prevent not treat! Giving it an immuniztion when it becomes a problem is like giving your kid the chicken pox vacc when it has chicken poxs. Thanks for the laugh

Last edited by Sillystunt (Today 9:39 am)

It's spread by mosquitos and the pox scabs and the dry (more common) version doesn't usually cause lasting problems. However if it does become a problem--severe symptoms and/or entire flock involvment--many people will then vaccinate incoming chicks.

I've seen a few posts lately where people are planning to start vaccinating new chicks even though they've had outbreaks many times before and never considered it more then a nusiance. It's just been that bad this year. I don't think it's all that funny.​

 

[Sillystunt]

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It's spread by mosquitos and the pox scabs and the dry (more common) version doesn't usually cause lasting problems. However if it does become a problem--severe symptoms and/or entire flock involvment--many people will then vaccinate incoming chicks.

I've seen a few posts lately where people are planning to start vaccinating new chicks even though they've had outbreaks many times before and never considered it more then a nusiance. It's just been that bad this year. I don't think it's all that funny.

I agree, my post was directed toward the member that said CULL it. Vaccinating is a preventative not corrective! You give it to them before not during an outbreak. She said you do it WHEN it becomes a problem, to late then! Her bad advise is what made me laugh or should i say chuckle. Like i said before, it runs it's course..............they will live unless you get some crazy internal pox that kills it.
Whats funny is what she wrote, read all the posts. Not that the member has fowl pox! I have had it, know where it comes from and they all LIVED! No reason to kill a bird because of it

 

[Kittymomma]

Well, my rooster is better and back with the flock, but I found one of the hens by the fence. I thought she might be sunning herself, but she's flighty and knew if she was just sunning herself she would take off. She didn't budge at my approach. I immediately saw that, like my rooster, her eyes were fused shut from the pox; however, there was pus oozing out and down her face! I brought her in, added antibiotic to warm water and scrambled eggs/wet dog food/dry cat food and hand fed her and got water into her. I also added a ophthalmic antibiotic to the "outside" of her eyes hoping some would seep inside. I need to know if I should use some warm water and gently get her eyes as cleaned up as possible and then add the ophthalmic antibiotic? I am worried.

Also, I have 2 baby chicks I removed from the coop before the pox outbreak. Someone told me there is something I can add to their water to prevent/immunize them from the pox...anyone know what it is?

The last paragraph from the op is what I believed the post you quoted was refering to. Since she was looking for information on immunizing chicks that she doesn't belive have been exposed it seemed to be a very reasonable question.

I understan the frustration with mis-information percieved or real. I still have a lot to learn, but no one learns well when they're being laughed at. Worse still they may give up on asking questions and lose animals because of it.

OT--I do a lot of kitten foster, some for the county some private. I had four 2-week old kittens come in as a private foster this last summer. They had been dumped with their dead mother (hit by car, I think) on the side of a logging road. I was told they had looked pretty good--momma hadn't been dead long, they were lucky to be found (most likely) within hours of being dumped and their future looked pretty bright.

However the people that found them tried to care for them on their own without knowing the first thing about it. They were heating non-fat cow milk in the microwave and putting it in a saucer for the kittens to eat. The runt needed emergency vet care for dehydration/anemia and cocci. The rest were in better shape, but still required an enormous amount of care to get back to full health.

These were nice, caring, well-intentioned people. It took biting my tongue (really!) to keep from laughing in disbelief and screaming in frustration at what they had done to those kittens, regardless of their intentions. However, I did bite my tongue and I taught instead of laughed. To me what they did was crazy, for them it was the best they could with the knowlege they had. They were decent and kind enough to rescue those kittens from the side of that logging road, the least I could do was help them keep the litter alive.​

 

[Sillystunt]

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The last paragraph from the op is what I believed the post you quoted was refering to. Since she was looking for information on immunizing chicks that she doesn't belive have been exposed it seemed to be a very reasonable question.

I understan the frustration with mis-information percieved or real. I still have a lot to learn, but no one learns well when they're being laughed at. Worse still they may give up on asking questions and lose animals because of it.

OT--I do a lot of kitten foster, some for the county some private. I had four 2-week old kittens come in as a private foster this last summer. They had been dumped with their dead mother (hit by car, I think) on the side of a logging road. I was told they had looked pretty good--momma hadn't been dead long, they were lucky to be found (most likely) within hours of being dumped and their future looked pretty bright.

However the people that found them tried to care for them on their own without knowing the first thing about it. They were heating non-fat cow milk in the microwave and putting it in a saucer for the kittens to eat. The runt needed emergency vet care for dehydration/anemia and cocci. The rest were in better shape, but still required an enormous amount of care to get back to full health.

These were nice, caring, well-intentioned people. It took biting my tongue (really!) to keep from laughing in disbelief and screaming in frustration at what they had done to those kittens, regardless of their intentions. However, I did bite my tongue and I taught instead of laughed. To me what they did was crazy, for them it was the best they could with the knowlege they had. They were decent and kind enough to rescue those kittens from the side of that logging road, the least I could do was help them keep the litter alive.

Once again, i was not laughing at the OP but at the bad advise given to her! Please make sure you understand what your reading before you jump to conclusions. You do understand how the quoting works, right. When i quote something and comment on it, it pertains to who wrote the quote not the OP. MANDYH is who i quoted! She is who i am laughing at!

 

[Kittymomma]

Once again, i was not laughing at the OP but at the bad advise given to her! Please make sure you understand what your reading before you jump to conclusions. You do understand how the quoting works, right. When i quote something and comment on it, it pertains to who wrote the quote not the OP. MANDYH is who i quoted! She is who i am laughing at!

Last edited by Sillystunt (Today 11:37 am)

Wow. Ok, I'm done.​

 

[BronteBlu]

Okay everyone. I am the initial person who put the post about oozing eyes on a hen. Someone else mentioned their turkeys and that I should cull any sick birds, but it was not me!

I did clean my chickens eyes with warm water, and had people read what I said rather than jumping the gun with reprimands and unwarranted advice, you would have read that "after" I cleaned her eyes (which were fused shut anyway), I put an ophthalmic antibiotic on her eyes, which did the trick. The pus stopped that same evening. I was told by a vet tech that Fowl Pox does not recur. Once they've recuperated, they don't get it again. Most of my chickens are nearly back to normal. This one hen, for whatever reason, is worse, but she is separated from the rest anyway, so that I can hand feed and hand water her as she cannot see to do either at this point.

I've sprayed down the coop with an insecticide. The temp has dropped significantly so there should be no more mosquitoes.

Someone suggested keeping the birds out of the water. Oh good grief. We've had a flood and that included 4" inside my coop. My coop is 20' x 11' and there is no way I could keep 24 chickens locked in for however long the water takes to recede...especially since at this point it's more damp inside the coop than out!

I have really appreciated all the helpful advice, but I think we can end the subject at this point. Thanks so much to all who tried to help.

 

[jenjscott]

1) Some affected birds may become carriers, and the disease may be reactivated by stress (eg, moulting) or by immunosuppression due to other infections.

2) Because the infection spreads slowly, vaccination is often useful in limiting spread in affected flocks if administered when <20% of the birds have lesions.

From the Merck Veterinary Manual.
http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/204801.htm



PS.By the way Welcome to BYC from southeast arkansas, sorry we got off to a sad start.

 

[BronteBlu]

Thank you for the advice. I don't have anymore birds to spread the pox to. They've all got it. Most are on the mend. I've got one hen in the house who has developed a respiratory problem and I'm not so sure she's going to make it. She's a very fussy eater and trying to get food into her now is proving impossible. The water I administer via a syringe I add antibiotic and vitamins to. She's in a heated cage, but she's quite raspy so I just think I'll be lucky if she makes it through tonight. I'm praying for her!