Free Ranging does not mean no fences

[Southern28Chick]

usbr,
I don't like arguing so I'll explain to you what has people defensive. It's the way you say things, they come come out like your not trying to be helpful they come out like you're trying to go against what other people are saying. Maybe it's just the way you say things, maybe you're not trying to do it. This thread was about keeping "free range" birds safe...it doesn't matter what you think free ranging is. The first post you put on here said "I don't consider your birds to be free ranging". Does that not sound rude to you? It does to other people.

 

[silkiechicken]

I would agree, even if you aren't trying to argue, some of your posts do come off as offensive/aggressive. It might just be the writing style though so I try no to take them that way as I know it is hard to interpret feelings though simple words on the screen.

 

[blue90292]

you guys are having way too much fun in here.

 

[Southern28Chick]

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HaHa

Hey, I like your site!

 

[WoodlandWoman]

usbr, the problem to me is not what you are saying or how you are saying it, but that you are off topic in this thread.

I think what you are discussing is a great topic and could be a very useful topic, in another thread. This thread is about how hobbyists can allow their chickens to have more access to the outdoors, in a safer manner, using a perimeter fence. You keep trying to bring it back to business terminology and legalities in a consumer market. Again, a fantastic topic, but not the topic of this thread. Please start a new thread for that topic, as I'm sure there would be a great deal of interest and input.

I can understand how the subject title of this thread could originally have been interpreted in more than one way, but the original post seemed clear to me and the intent of the thread was clarified by the OP back on page 1.

As for this thread, I'm really glad it was posted. I think there are more choices for chicken hobbyists than just keeping their chickens locked up all the time or letting them run totally free on their own. Things like perimeter fencing can be helpful. Pasturing them with other animals, like goats, sheep or donkeys. Adding cover for them to hide under, from hawks. Only letting them out under supervision. I like reading how other people do things and what's working or not working for them.

Are any of these techniques a guarantee? No. Can my car be stolen, even if I lock the doors? Sure. Can my house be broken into even if I lock the doors? Sure. I still lock them. I'm hoping the thieves pick an easier target. I hope the predators do, too.

 

[broncbuster07]

Thanks Woodland woman! I think you put into words what everyonelse was thinking, and you did it graciously!

 

[usbr]

Southern28Chick, it does not in the least because I followed it up with some references explaining the differences but also explained that according to the USDA, anybody can say pretty much anything and still be right. I was only hoping to be helpful and I dont believe that is rude at all. It wouldnt take much effort at all to search the forums and find similar comments by others its just in this case, some people may have gotten a little overly defensive. I dont have much control over that, no matter what my writing style is or otherwise.

Quoting anybody in limited context can sound anything, including rude. You need the context (including other people posts near it) to understand it. Somebody could easily go over your posts and pull out short sentences like you did and call them rude. Again, context counts.

HTH

 

[Southern28Chick]

I give up

This thread is turning uglier by the second. Back to the orginal topic:
broncbuster07,
I love the idea that you have goats out with your chickens. I've heard that really does keep birds of prey away. Have you had problems with snakes? That's the only predator I've had (so far).

 

[broncbuster07]

S28C, I've found a few baby copperheads around my house and killed them immediately. But I've never found any back where my chickens are. Knock on wood. I've always been fascinated by snakes and other reptiles. Usually, if I find a non-venomous snake I'll let it go, but if I ever found one in or around my henhouse, I'd have to kill it.

 

[Southern28Chick]

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I've had 2 black snakes in my chicken yard. The first one killed my baby roo and the second one was the very next day! We rehome snakes, even the one that killed by lil boy. I found a cooperhead (not in the coop) I let that one be. I'm not even trying to get bit. He was not near the chickens and was gone the next day. I think when it comes to snakes, we see them and say "Oh S__t a snake" and they see us and think "Oh S__t a human".