Free ranging without roo

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Hi, I'm interested in eventually letting my flock free range during the day. I don't have a rooster (that I know of yet). I have a couple EEs (one layer, one older pullet) that I let out in the afternoon when I'm around. My other chicks are only 5 weeks (6 ISA browns and 3 Biedelfelders) and 2 weeks (2 Speckled Sussex), so I'm not comfortable letting them out until they get a bit bigger. Once they are closer to grown, I'd love to let all 13 of them free range during the day. I work full-time time so I wouldn't be around. We have hawks and owls for certain, but besides my cat (who's a chicken sh*t, no pun intended)
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and raccoons, no ground predators that I know about. I'm curious to hear others' experiences.
 
Ok, my phone is really not behaving right now. We rescued over 100 ducks last week. I watched a video on YouTube called $5.00 Chicken Tractor. I let everyone free range during the day. But I would be nervous if I was working full time and had to leave them out alone. You might try watching and making one. They are easy to make and are easy to move around to different spots. I like them, unlike a run you can move this and do a rotation.
 
I am sorry, but without a rooster or two in your flock it is impossible to free range your hens. The whole premiss of freerange chickens is to allow them to do their chicken things completely without any interference from humans. Even putting your birds away at dark is a violation of a chicken's ethos.
 
I am sorry, but without a rooster or two in your flock it is impossible to free range your hens. The whole premiss of freerange chickens is to allow them to do their chicken things completely without any interference from humans. Even putting your birds away at dark is a violation of a chicken's ethos.
I'm not sure that i agree, but keeping to the issue raised by the OP - my flock ranges my garden and most of the time without a cock-bird. I've never found that it makes a difference to their ability to avoid predatory dangers. I've found that the alpha female will take the role of being a lookout for the rest of the flock.

An automatic pop door would be a good idea, since you may not be home before nightfall (I'd assume) at certain times of the year.

If you do free range, then be prepared for some potential losses - it's part of the deal. If your birds are considered as pets, then I would advise against it.

You are likely to get conflicting advice / suggestions on this subject. At the end of the day, I'd say - go with your gut feelings.
 
Rooster for me effective only against hawks and that is both seasonal and a function of relationship between rooster and other birds in the flock. Mine do not protect their "ladies". That said larger, fully adult roosters can be beneficial so long as they are not some how impaired.

The unpleasant surprise coming up will be provided by the predators you assume not to be present because you have not seen them. Top list of with Red Fox and Coyote.

Free-range keeping will involve more management against predators. My suggestion is you limit in time to when you are present. The recommendation changes if you invest in fencing that encompasses the entire area the birds range in and get an effective dog that drives off predators beating fence without dog actually harming chickens itself. Free-ranging is taken too lightly when the chickens are so easy to acquire and replace.
 
You don’t say where you are located so I can’t guess what predators you may have but since you mention raccoons I’ll guess North America and probably suburban. Dogs will probably be your biggest risk, especially during the day, but people would be surprised at how many foxes, bobcats, and coyotes live in suburbia. These animals can and do hunt during the day but they are more active at night. There are an estimated 5,000 coyotes living in the Chicago city limits. Don’t think hawks and raccoons are your only risks.

That said, many people free range their chickens every day whether they are present or not and don’t suffer losses. Others are basically wiped out about as soon as they try. If you free range you are taking a chance. Some people go decades without a loss then a predator shows up and starts killing chickens.

I agree with Pork Pie and Centrarchid, the benefit of having a rooster with the flock for protection is greatly exaggerated. I think you can get two benefits. A dominant mature rooster is usually a good look-out, an early warning system. But the dominant hen in a flock without a rooster will usually take up most of these duties so the overall benefit of having a rooster is pretty minimal. The other benefit is that a dominant mature rooster will sometimes go to investigate something that looks suspicious. He’ll put himself between his flock and the possible danger to see what is going on. This makes him more vulnerable, he may be the first one taken. It’s even possible he may try to fight off a predator but unless it is a really small one he won’t be successful. With mine if a real threat is recognized my roosters lead the flock to safety, they don’t sacrifice themselves. I’ve had two serious dog attacks, the rooster survived both uninjured. Most of these predators are ambush predators, there just isn’t any warning to start with.

Snakes large enough to eat eggs or baby chicks have gone into my coop. The rooster and the hens stay outside making distress calls, the rooster did not attack the snake to drive it away.

My parents totally free ranged a flock with a rooster for all my years growing up on the farm. During that time we had two predator attacks, a dog and a fox that were shot. The rooster made no difference in either of those attacks, no more than with my dog attacks. He survived both unhurt.

A friend in the country was washing the lunch dishes and looked out her kitchen window to see a bobcat take her rooster from ambush. In early afternoon. That rooster was not protecting his flock, he just happened to wander close to where the bobcat was hiding. It could just as easily have been a hen.

Our experiences aren’t going to help you much. We are all so unique in so many ways and it’s really random whether a certain predator shows up or not. Your neighbor a quarter mile away may have totally different experiences that you. None of us can quantify just how big your risks are. I don’t know how risk-adverse you are, how much losing just one would devastate you.

Probably your best defense against most of your potential predators is some sort of properly installed electric fence. Tall fences and other barriers can help but many of these things can climb, jump over, or dig under a fence. If you free range, whether you are home or not, you are taking a risk.
 
You might be surprised at the preditors you do have. I wanted to free range but I paid close attention to the threats i do have and was surprised to find I have several species of hawk fly over daily. I've found possums and a family of raccoons in my yard! So I built a covered run. I have 9 ladies and a rooster who I dearly love. So I made sure the run was attached to their house. Ii don't want to chance free ranging after finding out what comes in my yard! I suggest before you try it to take a good look day and night to see what your girls might be facing. Better safe than sorry. I recommend a chicken tractor to keep them safe. That might be a better option
 
I will specify that fully adult standard sized roosters are very effective in keeping hawks like the Coopers Hawk from taking hens, juveniles and chicks. My setting has extreme Coopers Hawk presence where the hawks will come into barn in pursuit of songbirds and even mice. The same hawks will take small chickens or hens if a larger chicken does not challenge them. There are times during fall through winter where I could loose a chicken every other day if not managed. My free-range chicks typically have mother to protect them. Juveniles are protected by adult rooster. Adult rooster will also backup a broody hen. The hawks I deal with seem hardwired to target the smallest chickens in the flock even if they could take the largest.

Other predators we do a good job of keeping away from barn so roosters do not have to contend with those.
 
@Ridgerunner I'm in central Florida. We are on 5 acres and border woods. I know for certain that we have hawks and owls because I see/hear them frequently. I've had to chase a black racer out of the coop, so snakes are a risk as well. I'm sure there are lots more predators out there that I have yet to see, even in the 7+ years we've lived here. The hens are fenced area in our backyard, so no risk from neighborhood dogs, only our own.

It sounds like, from people's feedback, that a roo isn't necessarily necessary to free range. I know it's a risk to let my girls out, but they are so damn happy getting out and about the yard!
 
Mine free-ranged all the time, with no more protection a couple of virtually useless Silkie roosters who ran from their own shadows. :he Remember one thing - a protective roo will sacrifice himself to defend his flock. So once he's done that, then a great rooster is gone and you're kinda right back where you started.

Edited to add: Whether to have a rooster or not is purely a personal decision, and you know your setup, comfort zone and flock needs far better than I do sitting here at my computer. I didn't mean to sound like I was discouraging you...just pointing out that even a roo can fall to a determined predator.
 
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