Frizzles, sizzles and how the genetics work to make more?

Blueeyez

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So, a couple weeks ago I was in tractor supply where I noticed some chicks in the mixed bantam bin that just looked very different than the rest. My friend who is an employee and is patient enough and nice enough to pick exactly which ones I wanted so I bought all 6. They are pretty well feathered now, all 6 are solid snow white but what's weird is 3 have the backwards feathers but the other 3 are just super soft and fluffy almost like a silkie but still slightly different than my true silkie. Now I've noticed several of them have 5 toes which makes me think even more that they must have some silkie in them. So, is it likely that they are sizzles rather than frizzles? And I'm hoping to eventually cross them with my other chickens to get more sizzle/frizzles but I'm trying to understand for sure what they are and what results I would get crossing them with bantam Cochin's or silkies?
 
Ya you're gonna have to post pics. "Sizzles" mean different things to different people. We need to see what exactly is going on with those whether they have the silkie, the frizzle or both genes going on.
Frizzle gene is easy. Breed a frizzle to a non frizzle and you'll get about 50/50 between frizzled and non frizzled offspring.
You don't want to breed frizzle to frizzle. That cross still gives you 50% frizzled and 25% non frizzled but also 25% frazzle which you don't want. Frazzles have weak feathers that break off or just don't really grow in. Search "frazzle" and you'll get a better idea why to stay away from any breeding that produces them.
 
I seeeeee Lol here's a few pics that may help answer my questions about these little guys. Please disregard the other random babies in the background, the white ones are the only ones in question Lol

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So, as you can see, 3 have the backwards feathers, one is SUPER fluffy and soft, one a little smoother but still sorta fluffy and very soft and another also more smooth but very soft and a Mohawk
 
The frizzled chicks look like frizzled white cochin bantams. They don't have 5 toes do they? They also all appear to be males.
Pic 6 and 7 look like white cochin bantam female. Also shouldn't have 5 toes.
4 and 5 look to be bantam sultans and should have 5 toes.
I don't see anything that points to any silkie cross or silkie blood in them. Also hatcheries don't sell mixed breeds unless they're some hybrid they've created on purpose and Idk of any hatchery sold hybrids involving silkies.
 
Hmmmmm yeah some do have 5 toes, the Mohawk one and the smoother feathered ones. The backwards feather ones have 4 toes
 
Also, some of the pics are of the same chicken more than once. Although, I did already suspect the frizzles were all males. But, that's perfect because then I could cross them with my regular bantam Cochin hens and get 50/50 frizzle babies, correct?
 
Correct on the 50/50.
Ya I noticed you said 6 chicks and there was 7 pics so I'm unsure what's what or who's pictured more then once.
To me pic 4 and 5 the Mohawks are sultans and should have 5 toes.
The others look like cochins and should have 4 toes.
 
Yeah, sorry about the confusion Lol only one Mohawk chick which does have 5 toes. Then the other two smoother feathered white chicks also have the 5 toes
 

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