Future Sex-linked Olive Egger Project: Feedback/Opinions Greatly Appreciated!

Crazy for Chickens!

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Soooo, this is my dream i'm working on. Saving money at the moment.....:) But, here's the idea:

I've got the genetics worked out, but i'm still figuring out which breeds i want to use for sure. I know i want to use the Cream Legbar for the Female. Blue eggs plus the barring gene for the sexlinks. For the other half, I cant decide if i want use Marans, or Penedesenca.

Marans: Pros: Awesome dark egg layers; Easy to find
Cons: The Black Copper color......I don't know about you, but i find it kind of dull.....
Of course, there are the Blue Coppers, but i've heard that their egg color isn't quite as dark.

Penedesencas: Pros: Pretty colors; rare
Cons: Harder to find; Not sure if egg color is quite as dark as Marans.....

So the plan is:
Buy quality stock from a breeder.
Educate myself about breeding to the standard, and get better at it as time goes on.
Take my best/breeding birds to shows once or twice a year. Take notes on what to improve/change in my breeding lines.
Cross my breeds, to create sex-linked olive eggers. Breed for good egg color and pretty colors.
Use silkies to brood eggs, and raise them. (That way i can save money not having to run a heat lamp.)
Make money selling hatching eggs/chicks/full birds. Whatever is more popular.
Repeat process

Okay, so here's my housing plans:

Winter:

Build a chicken coop. I want to make just a long shed-like structure.
Divide it into 3 parts/3 different chicken coops.
Add ventilation on N and S walls, plus chicken accessories.
Make one big run, and divide it into 3 parts.

Spring:
For my broodies/chicks. Build small covered, predator proof pens with little houses for them to sit/raise the chicks in.

Summer:
Build 3 walk in chicken tractors, mainly out of wire with a wood frame with some tin for shelter if a storm arises.
Buy electric poultry netting to put around tractor so they can free range in the day.

So here are some questions:
1. Does anyone insulate their chicken coop? Does it work to keep the chickens warmer in the winter?
2. What about a plastic roof? Kind of a greenhouse affect so the sun could shine inside and warm it up.
3. Is electric poultry netting predator proof? Mainly talking about night. Would i need to make sure i had a super predator proof tractor, or save money and not worry about it.

Selling questions:
1. Do you think people would be more interested in fertile eggs, chicks, or young adults? Or do people just like to buy green eating eggs.....
2. Do you think having show quality/to the standard birds will make more people interested?
3. How to ship eggs/birds?
4. I know i have more questions but can't think of them at the moment....:)

MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION:
Would all this be pouring money down a drain, or would i even make money doing this? I really love interacting/having chickens, and would love to make money from them.

Thank you so much for looking at my post!
 
Question 5:
What about roosters? Would there be a demand for them as well, or would i have to be getting rid of them all the time? Ideas?
There might be a demand for the occasional one that threw the blue egg gene when crossed, but for the most part I think you should just raise them up and then process them.
 
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I hear that Cuckoo Marans lay dark eggs and aren’t Welsummers considered Partridge? You could do a Welsummer x Legbar and possibly end up with sex Links.
 
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View attachment 1545395 I hear that Cuckoo Marans lay dark eggs and aren’t Welsummers considered Partreidge? You could do a Welsummer x Legbar and possibly end up with sex Links.
I could. I'm not really interested in Welsummers because their eggs aren't as dark as Marans. Cuckoo Marans do lay dark eggs, but Black Copper lay the darkest. I forgot to mention in the original post that i plan to sell the individual breeds plus the olive eggers. And i want the eggs to be really dark. They are worth more money that way.
 
People love sex-linked chicks and colored eggs in my area! I have a Splash Marans that hatched out of a nice dark egg (French Black, Blue, Splash Copper Marans) that I'm really hoping is a cockerel. If he is I'm going to give him some Cream Legbar pullets to make some blue sex-link Olive Eggers. I'm not a huge fan of the French Black Copper Marans, but I love the French Blue Copper & Splash.
 
I would think that the market would be primarily for chicks, that's kind of the point of sex links, isn't it, to know that you are getting females? The importance of "show quality" goes right out the window when you are producing mixed breed birds. Health and temperament would be of higher importance than conformation. Productivity would be something most people would put emphasis on, also.
I would think that sex link olive Eggers would sell well, that's something that I'd be interested in. Show quality birds is a much smaller market, though you can sell the birds for more. However, making money on chickens, in a small scale operation, is not realistic. Defraying your housing and feed costs, sure, but not something you can live on, unless you have a lot of birds and a large share of the buying public.
 
Scrap the silkies as broodies and see how the marans hens do.
I used silkies and cochins for years. Few years ago I had some marans hens go broody so I let them have at it. I had 3 hens and all three hatched two clutches that year and the last couple they did the same.
I've had silkies brood two or three times a year but they aren't that great of mothers. At least not here where I free range. The marans will cover twice the eggs also.
I never knew marans were supposed to be a broody breed but mine sure have been. Great mothers too so I won't be going back to silkies myself.
Curious to hear if others had good broody marans.
 

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