gelatin-like dropping? *update*

[Gtown Farmer]

Well, I just got back from the feed store. The folks there convinced me to start treating for cocci right away. They gave me a recipe for Corid. Mix 1 tsp Corid to 1 quart of water and 1, 1/2 quart of mash and feed each chicken 2 tablespoons of this for two days. Also, put 2 teaspoons of the Corid in each gallon of water for 5-7 days. It feels like the right thing to do. Again, I'll let you good people know what the morning brings.

Do you think I can treat with the Ivermectin at the same time?

 

[ChooksChick]

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The fact that her poo is all water- she hasn't any solid matter, which suggests, in conjunction with your previous comment about her mushy crop, that she's perhaps not getting anything through her crop.

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Here again is more indication- it would also cause her to not eat.

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Not like this- they'll hang out around the nest boxes, ba-gawk for no reason, and be a little more friendly- they also often squat when you reach for them.

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Not usually- they will lie around, dust bathe, and even sun bathe, but not the lying around with puffed feathers- that's illness.
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My experience is that not every one will be, but that they still eat. It could still be cocci, but it's also true that most of the time cocci will hit prior to the age of your birds.
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It's okay to treat, but if your bird isn't eating, she's not going to last long.


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I hope whatever the cause, that she's okay- it seems like you need to get some nutrients in her right away, and anyone who's seen my posts knows how fond I am of getting sick chickens to eat by offering them baby parrot food with a syringe feeder- it's concentrated nutrition and probiotics that you administer mixed with water- huge win if you can get it into them, and usually they love it!

 

[geebs]

Glad to see someone convinced you on the Cocci treatment... It can infect your flock, even adult birds and it does kill. Once you get a good dose of it in your pen... it will always be there ... Watch your coop closely for signs of listlessnes.. Chickens seldom get cold and listless... dropped wings is a sign and incessant peeping or snoring sounds.

 

[LynneP]

I agree about treating the flock for cocci. It's one of the leading killers of young birds, and you may have a hen at point of lay with a disease. Cocci can be acquired anywhere, even in the cleanest of cops and runs. Good decision- and meanwhile keep a special eye on that hen, who may be depressed and moody as her hormones shift into laying mode. They can get hormonal, and if she is having any difficulty as her body adjusts, better to have her free of cocci and ready to go.

 

[Gtown Farmer]

It's Wednesday. I went out to the coop and she was on the roost in the same spot that she jumped to last night. I changed out their water with the new cocci mix and also fed them the cocci mash. All of the birds ate it this time, and she didn't touch either. Interestingly, she went directly for a nest and started hanging around in it. She's been in it ever since. More standing than sitting though, and she has her head down --eyes open.

There were three more bloody poops and not under her. They're not exactly blood, but more maroon color, like the poop on the chart someone gave me that describes intestinal lining shedding. We'll keep going on the Corid and see what happens. I'll try to get some baby parrot food as someone suggested, but I'm in a pretty rural area. Maybe I'll make something up myself.

I'll keep you posted.

 

[twzlrwho]

If she is refusing food and water and more importantly , medicine. You might have to syringe into her mouth. Just dribble it onto her her beak and down the side, careful not to get it in her nose, and allow her to swallow on her own. Same way with vitamins.


Did you fast her to check her crop?

Baby parrot formula is one of my favs as well. I have used it numerous times.

 

[Gtown Farmer]

Hi, Thanks for checking in on us. I took her to the vet this afternoon to have her checked out. She said she has pretty good muscle tone and looks healthy considering she's sick. She did also thing that I should treat her for cocci and also to get some food in her. The chicken (her name is Doty, by the way) seems to be a little better. I made a mash of cooked oats, mixed with yogurt and hard boiled egg. She probably ate about 1.5 tablespoons at the first feeding and about one teaspoon every hour since. Within 15 minutes she seemed to be a lot more peppy. She's not nearly as humped up as she was yesterday and this morning, and she's keeping up with the rest of the girls but she's still not right.

While at the vet, she made three droppings, all VERY watery. This afternoon, she made a pretty firm dropping that looked pretty normal. Does the Corid kick in that quickly?

I'm convinced now that it is cocci. Everything I've read since yesterday points to it. The stool, the puffed up appearance, a little humped in the back, the closed eyes while standing.

Let's see what tomorrow brings. Hopefully she'll be running in the field again by then.

Here some pics from this afternoon. (labeled Wednesday afternoon) http://picasaweb.google.com/johnhanksnyc/Chickens#

 

[LynneP]

You make a good point. You could be dealing with cocci in the flock, but she may also be having difficulties in the laying department. Has she stood in the nest straining, or do you see any pulsating at the vent? If blood is being passed in the flock it can throw off the calcium in their medullary bones, which regulate shell production. So I assume that fixing the cocci problem will help with that. Still, this one requires and extra measure of caution. Foods high in calcium and protein will likely benefit her most, and offering oil for calories can help with weight gain.

 

[twzlrwho]

I am glad to hear she is doing better! I thought cocci from the beginning, but also wanted to rule out the suggestion of the crop. I'm glad you got it all figured out. I know I hate it when my girls don't feel good. I'm not sure how fast it works. I do know not to skip any days and treat for as many days it says on the bottle.

Also, 3horses has a great recipe for after treatment to help get her gut back in order. I am short on time or I would look it up for you. I'm sure a quick search or an email to her would help you find it.

Best wishes!

 

[Gtown Farmer]

The vet said her abdomen was empty, so no egg blockage, I hope. I just updated my last entry with a pics link if you're interested.