Goat people: Abscess busted, pus flowing. UPDATE no more pus

[goldensunriseranch]

I would think if all 3 goats have the abcess then the breeder's method of vaccinating is causing the problem. It is most common when the vaccine has been allowed to expire and if a separate sterile needle for each goat is not used. If it were me though I'd still be getting it tested, it just isn't a normal injection site, and a softball sized abcess I've never seen in 10 years of vaccinating alot of goats. And I'd also make sure they get fresh CD&T's since their last one might not have been effective if it was an expired batch.

 

[vicki2x2]

What does the pus look like? Is it yellow looking and thin or thick and cheesy looking, yellow or greenish? This would tell you the difference between a pus filled cyst and CL.

 

[Nupine]

I breed Alpines and this does not sound right. If this person has had ND's for 20 yrs, she would not give a vaccine in the chest. I give in the loose skin on the shoulder, quick and easy, but have given in the hip. Those are primary spots. This definatly sounds like CL, not a vaccine. I have given CDT shots about 20 times and have never seen and abcess, just a small ''ball'' inside the skin from the vaccine that goes away in a few weeks. Never a softball size abcess. That goat needs to see a vet and have the area swabbed to see if is CL.
Ashlyn

 

[kingdean]

You know what I may be confusing in the way I described the injection site. The abscess is on the chest yes but it's kind of near the armpit of the left leg. So the shot was not injected into the chest, it was the armpit.

I found this too

Goats can be vaccinated SQ (under the skin) between or behind the front legs. This way the lumps and bumps caused by the vaccine are not associated with any other disease.​

 

[kingdean]

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It's VERY white, milky and doesn't smell. It dries fast and looks like very white cheese. It's at a steady drip. She acting fine and eating well.


Not regarding this person's question, I don't quite understand why people think that it can be CL when all 3 goats have a lump in the exact same place.

 

[goldensunriseranch]

Possible. It just must be an injection site that is rarely used anymore, or possible it's an injection site used by meat goat breeders and this particular breeder used to also breed meat goats. But that injection site could be part of why all the goats have abcesses, just because better injection sites have come along that just work better. And it doesn't sound like very sterile methods were used. With that kind of infection I would in any case do a round of injectible antibiotics now that I think about it. And during the round of antibiotics also give an oral probiotic like Probios to keep the rumen going.

 

[goldensunriseranch]

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Mostly because CL is so very infectious, if one goat in their herd has it, it would be very likely for most of the herd to have the same symptoms. It spreads like wildfire. And the abcesses for CL are in specific spots too so all could show an abcess in the same place. Just a better safe than sorry thing as far as getting it tested by a vet.

 

[vicki2x2]

Because CL is very contagious and it is not uncommon for them to have them in the same spots. Our goats got it from a goat that we bought, who we were not told had it.

We did not quarantine her because my youngest daughter ended up in the hospital a few days before we were supposed to pick her up, so my oldest daughter went. She didn't know to keep her separate. By then it was too late. Now all have it.

It pops up most often under their ears on the jaw line and on their chest with mine.

We love our goats and they will all live here until they die, but now we can never take them to fair again or get anymore goats until they are gone. I could destroy them all, clean really well and get more, but these are our friends.

It looks thick and cheesy.

 

[kingdean]

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Ok now we're talking. What antibiotics would you suggest? And better yet where would I inject it?

Yes this breeder breeds Boers as well as Nigerians, beef cattle, Mini Zebu cattle, Llamas and many other critters. We toured the farm when we went to pick up the babies and all of her livestock are very healthy. My wife (southern28chick) has asked about the abscess on a goat forum and all the members said that an abscess is normal and they do sometimes burst and to just keep it clean.

 

[speckledhen]

Since I'm the one who mentioned CL in the first place, I wanted to say I only put that out there for you to assess the situation with caution. As I said, I do not know much at all about goats, only what happened to my friend, this sounded similar, and I thought it remiss not to mention this disease so you could take precautions and be safe, just in case. If it is just from a vaccination, then I'm relieved for you!