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Hello, I'm a new chicken owner, I'm an American living in the Middle East. I've wanted to try keeping chickens for a long time, it has taken this long to finally get things moving.

I've tracked down your forum because I need some hand holding! I let my chickens out of their coop for the first time today, we got them Wednesday evening and let them out this morning -- that is Friday morning. Well everything was fabulous all day, but once the sun started to set it was like a semi-panic in our chicken run.

We have a generous area for the chicken run -- about 7.5 meters by 3 meters. Hubby and I decided to try our hand at making our own, we used pvc pipes to make frame "boxes" that we then latched together. the area has a near-10 foot wall running down one long side and one short side, so on the remaining two sides we attached a heavy wire fencing that is over 6 ft high with 1-inch holes. The frame itself runs another 8 inches or so above that, so we have a gap between the fencing and the top frame. We then laid "sheets' of wire caging -- with open squares of about 5 inches -- on the top. We have some big trees in there, so this was a way we thought to discourage the chickens from trying to flutter out, and at the same time allow the leaves to fall through to the ground and not build up on top.

For the coop, we found a hutch that we fixed up, it is about 2ft by 6ft; inside we put three nesting boxes that are collectively about 3ft x 1 ft, a perching bar that is another 3 ft approximate, and small food and water dispensers. We made a wooden shelf to fit over the nesting boxes, so that gives additional space above.

We are interested in chickens for eggs and enjoyment, so Wednesday we bought four female chickens from our local souq -- I believe they are all "baladi" or local birds. As I mentioned, we kept them in the hutch until Friday morning, they were so happy to get out! And we fed them food scraps, which they were also happy to eat, and they spent their day happily pecking at leaves and digging in the sand, etc. Come sunset, one of the birds made a break for the opening above the fencing -- she fluttered on the fencing and reached about four inches from the top. We shooed her away, but as it kept getting darker everybody seemed to have the same idea. Whereas before they didn't even seem to notice anything above the ground, now they were eying the same top area, and a couple jumped on top of the coop which made me nervous as that put them about two feet from the 5-in square metal fence on the top. I didn't think I had to seal them inside, just discourage them from trying it!

Well, we went inside the run and were able to corral them all back into the coop and secure it. Honestly, I had anticipated that we would be able to just leave the coop doors open day and night and let the chickens come and go at will, but now I'm not so sure. They did jump in and out of the coop during the day, we got another egg :) , so I thought they were all good with the coop..

So, first, maybe we didn't keep them inside the coop long enough? (And while you have them inside the coop, do you still toss in whatever vegetable or fruit bits for the girls, or do they stick with the seed feeders only?) and second, maybe we should plan on escorting them inside the coop each night and securing it? or should we work towards making the run escape-proof and let them go in and out at will?

Sorry for the complete novel, and thanks in advance for any advice or even sympathy! I was so excited about my girls, but after the evening struggles I'm a little down... :(

Kate
 
Hello :frow and Welcome To BYC! Chickens like to roost as high as they can, and will often try to roost in trees etc even if they have a coop right there. If your run has openings the chickens can get to, sooner or later the chickens will try to get out ... if the openings are all pretty high you might try clipping a wing so they can't fly as well... but your best bet is probably going to be to cover the openings of the run with chicken wire or bird netting or something. No idea what predators you have to worry about there, but you might have to consider going with something sturdier and tighter like Hardware Cloth if you have predators. If your run is secure, they should go in the coop on their own at night, no reason you can't leave the doors open day and night.
Usually like to feed messy foods like fruit outside in the run so it doesn't make more in the coop to clean up... Usually just keep the pellets / chicken feed in the coops.
 
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@filfilksq , hello, and welcome to BYC! I'm new to raising chickens myself, so I can't offer any solid advice, though what Kelsie2290 says makes good sense.

I just wanted to offer a word of encouragement - it seems like you and your husband have already put quite a bit of time and thought into your chicken coop, and it speaks to just how good of a chicken parent you will be that you went out of your way to find this forum and seek out advice! Don't feel bad if you didn't get the design perfect on the first try - this is all new territory - but it sounds like you guys are doing just fine so far! So, chin up - I'm quite confident that you, your husband, and your girls will be just fine!
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Thanks so much for your comments. We had originally thought to put a green shade cloth over the top, but were worried about the buildup of tree leaves. Maybe we should do it anyway, and try to brush off the leaves periodically... although they seemed to like digging around in the leaves.. hmmm.

As for predators, I think the only ones we really have are feral cats, but from what I've heard locally they aren't a huge cause for concern for adult chickens..

Thanks again,

Kate

Oh, and I'm attaching some pics -- one of our chicken run, then you can see what I'm talking about with the gap -- and a couple of our girls..





 
Hi :welcome

Glad you could join the flock! Kelsie has given you some excellent advice there on them wanting to roost as high as possible. I too had the same problem at one time when all of a sudden they decided they were not going in the coop any more on an evening and we're going to fly up. I had to have a change of plan with their runs and they are now covered and cannot get out. All is well now and everyone goes to bed of an evening.
Here is a lovely section of the learning centre on housing your birds https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/housing-and-feeding-your-chickens

Wishing you the very best of luck with them in the future. Be sure to ask all the questions you need to, everyone here to help and very friendly.
Enjoy BYC and all the chicken chat :frow
 
Welcome to Backyard chickens. Sorry your birds are giving you so many problems. Chickens aren't as dumb as most people think. They are always looking for opportunities to get into trouble. Feral cats are very determined to go after prey and chickens can't outfight them. Everything seems to love eating chicken. Hope your chickens learn it's best to stay into their run/coop.
 
Thanks so much everyone! After reading the comments here, we've decided to work on securing the weaker areas of our run. In the meantime we have been letting the ladies out in the morning then we corral them back into their little house in the late afternoon, before it starts to get dark. I was surprised how easy it was! My kids just slowly walked in a line and the girls trotted right up into their spot. Actually, we may decide to do this anyway because of the feral cats, who are much more active at night.. people have told me they won't bother them, or the chickens will fend for themselves, but the idea doesn't make me very comfortable!

Thanks again, we're really enjoying the girls so far! We've had them now for almost three days, have found four eggs, and are learning already what kitchen scraps they prefer (strawberry tops are a favorite).

Kate
 

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