Great Depression of 2016

[hemet dennis]

Well my guess is we are talking 10 to 20 years if ever. I expect more out of the electric battery pack cars.

Battery packs are good for cars and will also take 10 to 20 years. But Battery packs are impracticable for trains and long haul trucks. Switching to a large percentage would be 50 years plus or minus 10 years.

Now the next question is how do you pay for the roads with less fuel tax revenues ?

 

[hemet dennis]

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So the answer is to give up and go back to caves ?
Why do you say low range electric vehicles ?
Do you know they can change the battery pack faster then you can fill a gas tank ?

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Now the next question is how do you pay for the roads with less fuel tax revenues ?

I think I have said before that I am not a fan of roads...

Why is the fed paying for roads? Seems like that should be a state issue along with how to fund it. I bet it could be handled pretty well at the tag office though...

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

 

[caychris]

So the answer is to give up and go back to caves ?
Why do you say low range electric vehicles ?
Do you know they can change the battery pack faster then you can fill a gas tank ?

Not caves just knowledge, skills and a plan.

The only electric cars with any decent range are so expensive that they are cost prohibitive.

I dont know about you but I can fill a tank in less than 5 minutes and the best Ive heard about full electric cars that have depleted batteries is 4 hours for full charge not to mention that recharging during a blackout is well...

The thing that always got me about electric cars is that electricity is expensive and our current power grid is woefully inadequate to support a migration of even 15% to electric cars. Never understood how electric cars were green. Most electricity is still generated by burning fossil fuels.

 

[oldrooster]

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Some small towns in my area where the citizens expect trash pickup provided by the city/town have decided it is easier and cheaper to contract with a private hauler (in part because they would need a truck that would be used 1 to 1-1/2 days and need a driver either part time or pulled from a different town job to do the route), and in one town (less than 5000) as part of the package they are given a 90 or so gallon rectangular trash "tote" (large trash can with handle and wheels) as part of the deal, that the hauler provided each household for free, and I believe for an extra fee can get a 2nd one. also other people and businesses get a little but of an extra break if they are located nearby (but outside of the town limits) because the hauler has extra capacity and can dedicate almost a full days work in one small area, saving them fuel from running their trucks over a larger area for the same amount of customers/trash volume....

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Our county use to have dumpsters all over for trash. They removed them for a $20 a month commercial service. Withing a year it had jumped to $50 a month. A local guy bought a truck an now does it for $17 a month. Thats less than I spent driving my own trash to the dumpsters.

 

[hemet dennis]

Quote: http://www.teslamotors.com/en_GB/batteryswap

 

[caychris]

Scary how do you produce that much electricity. If you need a huge solar farm for just Israel?
I heard lots of great assumptions and claims but the reality is it just isn't so.
Even Ayn Rand's Atlas shrugged required a fictitious "perpetual motion" machine.
And arent solar farms dependent on oil for the photo cells.

And don't get me started on the CO2 numbers.

Lots of nice what if's. I just dont believe the claims.

 

[hemet dennis]

Quote: I get the feeling that if you lived in the time of just horses you would have said auto would never replace the horse.