Growing Your Chicken's Own Feed?

Back in the day, chickens were pretty much left to forage on their own. Unfortunately, most of us aren't set up for that scenario today. We have a 1/4 urban lot so ours are in a portable coop/run which we move every 3 or 4 days. They always have fresh grass but that only goes so far. They definitely need greens to keep themselves healthy and the yolks gold and tasty; need protein and calcium for good eggs, and all the other nutrients all living critters need. We didn't get our chickens till July, so I didn't plant for them (I'm definitely going to next year!) but even so, we've been able to replace about 20% of their food with things that are "free".

This spring, I'd planted a few patches of oats, clover and comfrey to use in herbals, and discovered that the chickens love it...so it goes to them. They like most of the weeds we have growing in our yard, so I pull those and put 'em in the run. I cook pinto beans for them which they love and are great protein; give their ground shells back to them for calcium. They get goodies from the garden as well...they LOVE grape tomatoes and zucchini (they like the big ones with lots of seeds), They get pretty much all the veg scraps from the house, and meat scraps too...more protein. I make yogurt for them from powdered skim milk...it's inexpensive if you make it yourself. You can even ask friends and neighbors to save their kitchen scraps for you.

Next year, I'm putting in more oats. I cut just the tops off to feed them, then cut and store the straw for bedding and will till the roots back into the soil. I also got some winter wheat and rye I'll be getting planted in another month or so. We also got some alfalfa to put in come spring...it's absolutely the best! Lots of nutrients and protein, it's a perennial if you don't let it flower and go to seed, it's a nitrogen fixer, so it also conditions the soil. Usually I just grow parsley and basil in pots in the kitchen, but next year I'm planting quite a lot outside...they particularly love parsley. I also plan to put in drying beans and sunflowers (the beans can use the sunflower stalks to climb on) Beans are excellent for them but do need to be cooked first. DH is building us a cold frame so we can grow greens for them (and us) through most of the winter...chard, kale, spinach.

I attended a lecture yesterday where the speaker said he keeps a "compost pile" just for the birds. He doesn't build it for actual composting, but just tosses stuff there and lets it lie. It becomes a magnet for worms and various kinds of bugs. He periodically lets the chickens into it and they scratch and turn and grab up all those yummies. We have a pile of mostly grass clippings, cuz there's only so many we can use in the compost bin. We'll start adding other stuff to it and let it sit...as long as it doesn't get really wet, it won't stink the neighbors out, LOL

We don't have enough room to grow everything they need, but I'd like to get to where we can produce at least 50% of their feed...that'll help a LOT, especially since we all know feed prices are just going to keep going up and up. The other huge benefit is that you KNOW what they're eating...no GMO's, no chemicals.
 
Mickey328, I'm loving all your experiences and suggestions for growing feed. When I actually get serious and buckle down, I'm gonna read through this entire thread again, and compile a huge grocery list, and try to plant all these goodies on a rotational/seasonal basis.

I'm not planning on raising a gazillion chickens, but a few would be really be a labor of love (the biggest labor would be coup/run construction), and what better activity, besides gardening, would be excellent therapy for someone with a few more (retired) hours on their hands?

All the work you put into your project(s) gets rewarded back at you, whether it be eggs, meat, produce, and the simiple enjoyment of having some cooky, feathered friends with multiple personalities. I just hope that the "multiple personalities" aren't concentrated into one chicken. Don't wanna raised any "possessed" birds here and have to keep an open Bible in the coop and run...LOL!

Sometimes, I tend to step on some subjects that should be mentioned elsewhere, and I apologize for that, but like to bring up some things that may strike a "nerve", hoping positively, with others, and may bring out some folks afraid to comment.

We're all human, and I'm sure the majority of us were not born with a "silver spoon" in there mouth (meaning you will have money all throughout your life), or a "veil over their face" (meaning that you can see paranormal stuff).

I don't know, it's none of my business, of who/what you believe in, but I accidently (done alot of stupid things), and went out my front door a few weeks ago, checking my overgrown bushes and trees, just a mess, and surely reminded from the HOA nastygram.

Came back into the house through the garage and laundry room. Ate dinner and took a serious nap until about 10:00pm, then got up and did two small loads of laundry. Got up at 4:00am as usuall, and went through my normal routine.

Went to go out through the laundry room to the garage and looked straight ahead and noticed that my front door had been standing open about two feet wide all night. I checked throughout the house, and nobody was in there, but I was more worried about what critters could have crawled in there. I'm still upset about the whole deal. Nothing is missing or out of order, and my new $800 Bose Wave Radio/4-CD Changer is still sitting on the coffee table untouched, right at the entrance.

Since my outside light is beside the garage door and not at my recessed, dark entrance, I'm hoping no critters would have crawled in there. I still nervously walk through the living room to check for anything out of the norm. This is Arizona, and no telling what could have taken up residence. This is a concrete jungle, and haven't seen anything as much as a stray cat or dog, but you never know, since there are some weeded washes behind some of these culdesacs. So far, so good, and haven't seen anything freaky like rattle snakes, birds, scorpions and tarantulas.

I said all that to say that I truly have Guardian Angels camped around this place, my first house, inspite of my stupid, non-attentive behavior. On some days, I think I'm really losing it. On my stove, you turn on the burners counter-clockwise, and many times, I've ended up leaving burners on all night, wondering why the house was so warm when I got up in the morning. Just plain stupid. Of course, the skillet/pot/pan was on the burner, so I didn't see the flame.

Thanks for taking the time to read my long essays. It's way past due to reach out to other folks rather than co-workers who I don't really care for, and some quirky church folks. It would be nice to start dreaming about the self-sustaining, simpler life with [name your favorite critters and plants/crops here], instead of dreaming about typing up complaints/summons, running back and forth to court, and putting out Warrants on folks.

I believe meeting new blood can be more therapeutic than the actual critters and crops that you raise. Bless Bones and Bless Goodness.

As far as the legal stuff goes please don't drive around Tucson with a busted head/tail light, expired plates/registration/no proof of insurance. And, by all means, be carefull if you're a witness/victim of an incident. Law Enforcement runs EVERYONE involved and/or present. If you are an innocent bystander witnessing an incident and have an outstanding warrant, you WILL immediately be taken to jail for an unpaid ticket, failure to appear etc. --BB

Bobby Basham
Tucson, Arizona
 
Thanks, Bobby...I appreciate the encouragement. I feel all this stuff is a "work in progress" just as life is. It's all an experimental learning experience...learn from the failures and rejoice in the successes.

We got our chickens because we wanted fresh, wholesome eggs. We're lucky that out back fence is the city limits...here we're allowed 6 hens but no roo. On the other side of that fence, folks can have 4 hens but have to get an annual permit for them. What we didn't know that was besides the wonderful eggs we get, we get a lot of entertainment and plain ole satisfaction from having other living beings share our space with us. Dave, bless his huge heart, built a gorgeous coop and run in about 3 weeks, working on his days off and mornings before work. It was pretty much all from stuff we had around from previous projects or free from Craig's List. I'm so proud of it and him. I'm kind of proud of myself as well...I feel I did my research well in terms of what kind of chickens would suit us best and we've been more than satisfied with how it's turned out.

All the growing stuff and learning and plans for the future have just been a natural offshoot from there. We're the sort of folks who like to improve and expand where we can. It's been fun and healthy for us and is a wonderful activity for us to share. Forums like this one have been a HUGE help...it's so great to "meet" like-minded people. There is so much to learn from folks who have the experience, and it's also very satisfying to help folks who are where we were a few months ago. In our minds, it's what life is meant to be...a community where you learn from some and teach to others and generally all help each other. We're certainly not wealthy! In fact our income combined is low enough that we qualify for our local food bank. I feel neither pride nor shame about that; it is what it is. Our basic needs are met and we're comfortable with ourselves and our lives. We feel very fortunate that we have our home and vehicle paid for, and we regularly help out with others where we can. We do "take" from the food bank, but we also donate our extra eggs back to it. It's not quite a "fair" trade, but we do feel we're contributing. The bank always has lots of fresh produce and past-fresh breads, but protein is scarce there. We love to think our eggs are going to folks, especially children, who don't have access to much in the way of good, fresh healthy stuff.

We live on a cul de sac as well, and most nights our door never gets closed, LOL. I scold Dave because he likes to open the garage door a foot or so for ventilation, but then forgets to close it at night. I'm afraid we're going to have a healthy mouse population in there before too long :( I have a very bad habit of falling asleep in my recliner (when did I get "old"??) which is right next to the front door. Anyone could walk in and probably never even wake me, though our dogs would probably set up a holler, trying to see who could get petted first!
 
I don't know why I stuck that Piano up in my post. Maybe just to show one of many blessings I've received, but not chicken related. I don't know how, or if I'm able to, delete it. --BB

Bobby Basham
Tucson, Arizona
 
Greetings My Fellow Fowl Friends, I have been looking for, and not succeeding at finding, a reasonably comprehensive list of feeds I can grow for laying hens, and also for meat chickens.....I just can no longer afford the feed bill. I used to go to a smaller feed store and could buy various grains and custom mix when I was breeding and training doves for Magicians....and I don't mind having to buy a few things.....but I really need to provide more Non-GMO, home grown feed......We also have long cold winters, and I am wondering what I can add the the diet of both types of birds for winter.....I was considering grinding up peanuts and other high-fat foods to help em keep warm....
 
Greetings My Fellow Fowl Friends, I have been looking for, and not succeeding at finding, a reasonably comprehensive list of feeds I can grow for laying hens, and also for meat chickens.....I just can no longer afford the feed bill. I used to go to a smaller feed store and could buy various grains and custom mix when I was breeding and training doves for Magicians....and I don't mind having to buy a few things.....but I really need to provide more Non-GMO, home grown feed......We also have long cold winters, and I am wondering what I can add the the diet of both types of birds for winter.....I was considering grinding up peanuts and other high-fat foods to help em keep warm....
I doubt you will find any compressive list on what feeds to grow for chickens. They being omnivores will eat almost anything they come across that doesn't eat them first. I would first consider what you can grow, then how you are going to store it. Grains and legumes are the easiest to grow and store, but the harvesting is a lot of work for the home gardener. I would look around for alternate food sources like old produce from stores or the like.
 
Greetings My Fellow Fowl Friends, I have been looking for, and not succeeding at finding, a reasonably comprehensive list of feeds I can grow for laying hens, and also for meat chickens.....I just can no longer afford the feed bill. I used to go to a smaller feed store and could buy various grains and custom mix when I was breeding and training doves for Magicians....and I don't mind having to buy a few things.....but I really need to provide more Non-GMO, home grown feed......We also have long cold winters, and I am wondering what I can add the the diet of both types of birds for winter.....I was considering grinding up peanuts and other high-fat foods to help em keep warm....
Unless you have a lot of land your still going to be buying a lot of the ingredients.

Also remember the average chickens need to be on at least a 2,900 kcal ME/kg diet. (ME/kg = metabolisable energy per kilogram of dry matter)

I'll see what I can dig up for a comprehensive list for you...
 
I can give yall a comprehensive list of materials that most commercial growers go by to feed their chickens
Per 100lbs

Corn meal 60lbs. (energy grain)
Wheat middlings 15lbs (energy)
Soybean meal 8lbs. (protein)
Fish meal 3.75lbs. (fats)
Bone meal 1lb. (cal, fat,pro)
dried milk 3lbs. (cal, pro)
Alfalfa leaf meal 2.50lb (vita)
Iodized salt .4lb. (mineral)
ground limestone 6.3lb.(mineral)


So naturally I believe If you plant bulk seeds (buckweed, millet, corn, wheat, ECT)
Oil seeds (alfalfa, rape, sunflower, nuts)
grind left over bones (chicken, goat, sheep, fish, egg shells, shell fish)
And finally plant forage/cover crop (clover, rye, chickweed, peas, ECT)
you'll probably end up with a good amount to have for your flock.
Also set up a vermicomposter for continuous supply of bugs
 
Ingredients Pounds
Corn 37.0
Wheat 30.0
Soybean Meal 44% protein 20.0
Calcium Carbonate 7.0
Alfalfa Meal 2.0
Bone Meal 2.0
Dicalcium Phosphate 1.0
Vitamin Premix 0.5
Mineral Premix 0.5
Total 100 lbs

This is a very basic layer type mix with the least amount of ingredients.
 

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