half grown coyote stalking my chickens

[cubalaya]

i know of rabbit hunters that have lost beagles to coyotes. i know of hound hunters that have crossed their walkers on greyhound and wolfhound to get coyote dogs that will run them down to kill. our ancestors who lived on the east coast poisoned , trapped and killed the eastern coyote out of existence many years ago. these hybrid coyotes that have wolf in them were released by animal rights groups to kill our animals, livestock and pets. not only should we kill every coyote that we see, day or night, but we should get law enforcement involved in the prosecution of these animal haters.

 

[DelDels]

I agree 100% with Cubalaya. There was a good reason why our ancestors got rid of these varmints. Now all of us and our animals pay the price of this illegal restocking. No one was asked if we wanted this done. No one was warned and children have been attacked and maimed. There was no public discussion or vote. Thus, they broke the law. I for one would like to see some people go to jail. However, it won't happen.

 

[dinahmoe]

secure your coop and run.there are ways to do it that no large predator like a coyote will get them.
if you free range ,that is just the chance you take.

you can't kill every wild animal that you see,another one will just take its place.
good fences make good neighbors- animal and human

 

[Buxton Ducks]

Coyotes are much faster than almost any dog and their jaw pressure is huge. Here in Maine they have found that the coyotes are a cross between gray wolves and coyotes and so it isn't uncommon to see a very large coyotes. Again though, unless they are protecting their pups, wild animals do not like wasting energy because any waste might mean death. Dogs don't mind a fight because they have no need to conserve energy. 99.9% of the time a coyote is not going to waste its time with a little bird when it has a barking dog chasing it down or the potential of such. That being said, I wouldn't let me dogs get out of eyesight chasing one because of the chance that their is a family of them waiting. There is a lot of lore and silliness surrounding coyotes but when it comes right down to it, they are just trying to survive and doing a pretty good job at it. So keep your birds locked away at night (and any other small pet you might have), and get a small perimeter fence for "free-ranging", and only let them free range when you are home and you should be fine.

Now after that little rant, I must say that I was working on my car in the garage last fall and I heard a squabble in the backyard. I rounded the corner to see a bobcat with my prized OEG Rooster in its mouth. It jumped the perimeter fence and was gone. The dogs were in the backyard with the birds when this happened, but they were lazily asleep on the back porch and the bobcat knew it. I found poor Jerry eaten in a tree the next morning only about 100 yards from the house. I took all the precautions and I still lost one, it is just the facts of living with nature. I still see that bobcat occasionally. Here are a couple pictures from my trail camera that is posted on a tree right by the chicken coop!



By the way, these cameras are a great way to see whats up when you aren't around.

 

[Buxton Ducks]

Nobody "re-stocked" the coyotes. They slowly moved east over the last couple hundred years and filled a much needed missing niche in nature. We have a huge farm and the coyotes can been seen at any time of day eating woodchucks, rabbits, deer, voles, rats and other more destructive vermin. We have a huge deer population here which almost decimates our corn crop each year. If it weren't for the coyotes, we would have so many voles eating our strawberries. In fact, hunters are only allowed on our property if they obey our "do not shoot they coyotes" rule. The coyote has been around since the ice age and is here to stay, so you better get used to it. We irradicated wolves and coyotes on the east coast simply because we did not have the means to protect our livestock in any other way. Now we have ways to protect them. We have electric fences around all our crops, but some deer still get in. We don't shoot all the deer, we just try our best every year to keep them out. The eastern form of the coyote is doing two very important jobs right now, that of the wolves, and that of the coyotes. We would be overrun with deer and rodents, disease like lyme disease would flourish. So we have kinda like a coyote preserve here!

 

[cubalaya]

somebody did release them because they weren't true coyotes but hybrids that were bred in captivity. ask the sheep farmers and cattle farmers what niche the coyote fills around here. you are living in a dream world.

 

[dinahmoe]

Nobody "re-stocked" the coyotes.  They slowly moved east over the last couple hundred years and filled a much needed missing niche in nature.  We have a huge farm and the coyotes can been seen at any time of day eating woodchucks, rabbits, deer, voles, rats and other more destructive vermin.  We have a huge deer population here which almost decimates our corn crop each year.  If it weren't for the coyotes, we would have so many voles eating our strawberries.  In fact, hunters are only allowed on our property if they obey our "do not shoot they coyotes" rule.  The coyote has been around since the ice age and is here to stay, so you better get used to it.  We irradicated wolves and coyotes on the east coast simply because we did not have the means to protect our livestock in any other way.  Now we have ways to protect them.  We have electric fences around all our crops, but some deer still get in.  We don't shoot all the deer, we just try our best every year to keep them out.  The eastern form of the coyote is doing two very important jobs right now, that of the wolves, and that of the coyotes.  We would be overrun with deer and rodents, disease like lyme disease would flourish.  So we have kinda like a coyote preserve here!

cubalaya-if you need to kill the coyotes killing your livestock,then go for it but it doesn't mean everyone should and it certainly doesn't mean people need to eradicate them.the sheep and cattle need livestock guardians(anatolians).
what other large predator does the east coast have?more humans have been killed by deer than by coyotes.
and as far as the hunters' beagles getting killed by the coyotes,weren't the beagles running after the coyote natural food source?what would you do if something was taking your food in your territory?

i am not an animal rights person but i am a farmer and hunter.i choose to live out in the woods with lots of land.the wildlife was here first and I must make the change,not them.

 

[DelDels]

They were restocked in New Jersey. In fact the state is being sued by parents who's children were attacked in their own yards. This was in the news.

 

[ub1243]

they were never stocked in nj.
the earliest recorded sightings were in the late 40's. cape may and lambertville, same year.
they have always been here.
the auto industry, tree huggers or anyone else on the list did not pay to have them stocked.

one point that is not talked about is the fox hound guys, after mange or distemper would go through, would go south and bring coyotes up to have something to run the hounds on. we all know they didn't kill 100%. there is a live market in WV and SC.

in south jersey they have expanded about 10 years behind the turkey population explosion. they numbers peak, then come back down to carrying capacity.
north jersey has always had them. with the rise of deer numbers and turkey numbers up there, 25 years ago, the coyotes peaked.
i am a trapper in the winter, i have caught them.
they will hunt in the daylight. young of the year will do anything to a meal. chickens in back yards are on the list. i have had coyotes watching my pet rabbits in their hutch, in my back yard.

 

[sourland]

they were never stocked in nj.
the earliest recorded sightings were in the late 40's. cape may and lambertville, same year.
they have always been here.
the auto industry, tree huggers or anyone else on the list did not pay to have them stocked.

one point that is not talked about is the fox hound guys, after mange or distemper would go through, would go south and bring coyotes up to have something to run the hounds on. we all know they didn't kill 100%. there is a live market in WV and SC.

in south jersey they have expanded about 10 years behind the turkey population explosion. they numbers peak, then come back down to carrying capacity.
north jersey has always had them. with the rise of deer numbers and turkey numbers up there, 25 years ago, the coyotes peaked.
i am a trapper in the winter, i have caught them.
they will hunt in the daylight. young of the year will do anything to a meal. chickens in back yards are on the list. i have had coyotes watching my pet rabbits in their hutch, in my back yard.

Absolute truth! I am 70 years old and have lived in NJ my entire life. As a kid coyotes were occasionally seen. Their numbers have simply increased with the burgeoning deer and turkey populations coupled with the decrease in hunting pressure. Restocking was never necessary. Nature has a way of filling a void. If anyone has information to the contrary, please post your sources.