Again, for me I will NEVER risk loosing babies and I can tell you 80% did kill them, why because when I first started out I read all over the internet, humidity should be this temp this, blah blah blah and one factor it stated 80% humidity, welll what I didn't read is this was for WET bulb not what i was using. It was HORRIBLE to see 10 babies make it all the way to lockdown and then each one booom boom boom died off. it was horrible. I think the best thing for deattched don't even shift them. Just let them sit there completely still, I have read some people have had success but guess what. When I asked them ok tell me exactly what you did, There responses STOP, this tells me, they are fibbing. Yeh alll of a suddenly then can't tell me exactly what they did to help deattached air cells. KIND FUN FUNNY HUH? I have will have to experienment, I wonder if you put a tiny PIN hole at the top of the shell and leave that egg there for a couple of days if that will help get those Deattached air cells to STICK. HUMMMMM... I LOVE EXPERIMENTING with things..