Hands on hatching and help

[tracyjg]

She only a year old.

 

[tracyjg]

Time off death 8.42 pm. Who do I call to check her internally out again autopsy

 

[oakhollow]

Hi there - Looking for advice on whether I should help a hatching chick. This is our first hatch - my almost-13 year old daughter was incubating the eggs and we thought we were only on day 18, but then she admitted that she hadn't marked off every day. We didn't think to make a note of the start date, so we're honestly not 100% certain what day we're on. We have three eggs. Two of them pipped this morning, one in the air cell, and nothing more from that one yet (although we can hear chirping coming from it, and the egg is moving).

The other chick pipped through the active membrane on the narrow end of the egg. There was a tiny bit of blood, but it stopped quickly. She's continued to work at it all day and is a feisty chick, lots of movement. She's managed to push off about a quarter-sized chunk of shell and her entire beak is through the hole, and she is noisy! Chirping regularly, and can hear it two rooms away. 

My concern is that the outer membrane is starting to look very dried out. It's getting brown and looks very thick, even though I've been moistening it every two hours. It's separated from the inner membrane, so I was able to use (disinfected) tweezers to gently lift the edge of the outer membrane and see the inner. The inner doesn't look dried out. I saw a couple of hairline vessels on the inner membrane. There was no bleeding but I didn't want to push it.

Incubator is right around 100 degrees, and humidity has been between 65-75% all day today. Before today, it was around 50% humidity (because we thought we were only on day 18, we didn't increase the humidity three days ago, unfortunately).

It's been about 12 hours... Should I be worried about the membrane and try to intervene?

In case the really knowledgeable people have gone to bed (where I am headed), when they pip the wrong end, it takes longer than from external pip at the fat end, the wrong end pip is timed like an internal pip, it just didn't have an air cell there. So they would probably say to give it longer

 

[tracyjg]

 

[mikeldb]

Hi there - Looking for advice on whether I should help a hatching chick. This is our first hatch - my almost-13 year old daughter was incubating the eggs and we thought we were only on day 18, but then she admitted that she hadn't marked off every day. We didn't think to make a note of the start date, so we're honestly not 100% certain what day we're on. We have three eggs. Two of them pipped this morning, one in the air cell, and nothing more from that one yet (although we can hear chirping coming from it, and the egg is moving).

The other chick pipped through the active membrane on the narrow end of the egg. There was a tiny bit of blood, but it stopped quickly. She's continued to work at it all day and is a feisty chick, lots of movement. She's managed to push off about a quarter-sized chunk of shell and her entire beak is through the hole, and she is noisy! Chirping regularly, and can hear it two rooms away. 

My concern is that the outer membrane is starting to look very dried out. It's getting brown and looks very thick, even though I've been moistening it every two hours. It's separated from the inner membrane, so I was able to use (disinfected) tweezers to gently lift the edge of the outer membrane and see the inner. The inner doesn't look dried out. I saw a couple of hairline vessels on the inner membrane. There was no bleeding but I didn't want to push it.

Incubator is right around 100 degrees, and humidity has been between 65-75% all day today. Before today, it was around 50% humidity (because we thought we were only on day 18, we didn't increase the humidity three days ago, unfortunately).

It's been about 12 hours... Should I be worried about the membrane and try to intervene?

I personally would help, but would not feel comfortable telling you what to do, best advice find some small pointed clippers like for nails and be carefull, if they're in there to long they will dehydrate and die, amongst other issues, just if you do help be careful and make sure you disconnect the um·bil·i·cal cord, which means you need to remove the shell far enough back to see it with out ripping it out of the chick cause it'll die... sigh it's a learning curve to know what exactly to do and when to do it good luck

 

[tracyjg]

You have a problem? I was doing all that I could for her. I was doing cpr waiting for my partner to get across town from work. He has a job working 7 days a week and then some. They have food they have water. There is a little bit of a cover spot on that coop. She has a vet on stand buy when we need them. I don't listen to what. I do clean the coop often .i am trying to do all I can. I try to make suggestions to fix my problems.

 

[tracyjg]

I was out there an 1 hr and a 1/2 before I found her . She was under the covered shelter alive.

 

[tracyjg]

You don't know what your talking about. She was in the house earlier in the winter. Because she need care.

 

[tracyjg]

My partner was 30 mins away at work. He has a job. He works 7 days a week.and then some. He was going to take me and her to emegency vet. To have her looked at.

 

[jnmarz30]

Update: My wrong-end pipped is now my only remaining chick. I went to bed at 12:30 am and got up at 6:00 to check them, and in that time I think the humidity got too high - it was 75% when I came out. The non-pipped egg had pipped but not made it. The pipped egg had almost all the way unzipped but also didn't make it. I wish I'd left them for three hours instead of six. I feel terrible.

The wrong-end bird is still alive, but had made no progress since 12:30. Even with that high humidity, the outer membrane looked brown and tough, so I just took her out and very carefully chipped off some of the shell and peeled back the outer membrane more. The inner membrane looks clear, but I hit a tiny vessel and saw blood, so I stopped that with a wet paper towel and put her back (with the humidity down to 60). I'm going to see what she does over the next hour or two.