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I feel that cat food might be pushing the protein content a bit high for the chickens.
The recipe does not say how much cat food, but it does say every other day, so I think it's a safe assumption that the chickens are not more cat food than the amount of scratch or birdseed.

The scratch grains and birdseed bring the protein content so low that the cat food is just compensating, not pushing it too high.

I usually do a winter mix of their layer diet with the chick feed for added protein and plenty of scratch to keep them warm.
Why not skip the layer feed and just use chick starter?

The only special thing about layer feed is the amount of calcium. If your hens are not laying, layer has too much calcium. If they are laying, layer has about the right amount of calcium, so adding chick starter means you need to provide oyster shell so the layers can get the extra calcium they need. You can skip the layer feed and just provide chick starter plus oyster shell. That gives you a higher protein content, and lets every hen regulate her own calcium needs with the oyster shell, and you don't have to buy & store an extra bag of stuff (the layer feed.)

Not sure about the rabbit food for the additional fiber.
Provided separately so the chickens can choose to eat it or ignore it, the rabbit feed is probably safe enough.

Chicken food already has an amount of fiber that works well for chickens. Adding more fiber is not necessarily going to make them healthier. It's kind of like people: there is some amount of fiber that is good. More is better until you reach that level, but adding more past that point is not better.
 
We are wandering a bit far afield here, but Mary is correct. You should listen to me.
Okay, humor aside, Mary is correct.The nutritional needs of chickens are better studied and better understood than any other critter on this planet, including us human types.

Feeding chickens extra scratch in winter gets almost all the science wrong. It's not great for your chickens. It's not great for your budget. I would spend a little more time explaining the science, except that I'm walking through a Lowe's right now. Getting funny looks.
 
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The recipe does not say how much cat food, but it does say every other day, so I think it's a safe assumption that the chickens are not more cat food than the amount of scratch or birdseed.

The scratch grains and birdseed bring the protein content so low that the cat food is just compensating, not pushing it too high.


Why not skip the layer feed and just use chick starter?

The only special thing about layer feed is the amount of calcium. If your hens are not laying, layer has too much calcium. If they are laying, layer has about the right amount of calcium, so adding chick starter means you need to provide oyster shell so the layers can get the extra calcium they need. You can skip the layer feed and just provide chick starter plus oyster shell. That gives you a higher protein content, and lets every hen regulate her own calcium needs with the oyster shell, and you don't have to buy & store an extra bag of stuff (the layer feed.)


Provided separately so the chickens can choose to eat it or ignore it, the rabbit feed is probably safe enough.

Chicken food already has an amount of fiber that works well for chickens. Adding more fiber is not necessarily going to make them healthier. It's kind of like people: there is some amount of fiber that is good. More is better until you reach that level, but adding more past that point is not better.
So my flock of 40 is very mixed right now. I had 24 chicks this year hatching between late May and mid September. I have them on all flock since I have about 10 cockrels and various ages of pullets. Would chick starter be better? I also always have oyster and egg shell on the side. My chickens are in a large coop with a very large run. I can't say they free range as it is enclosed to keep them safe from neighborhood dogs, but it's very large probably 1/6 of an acre or more. I typically switch them to all flock, but if chick feed would be better for them I'd gladly do that.
 
So my flock of 40 is very mixed right now. I had 24 chicks this year hatching between late May and mid September. I have them on all flock since I have about 10 cockrels and various ages of pullets. Would chick starter be better? I also always have oyster and egg shell on the side. My chickens are in a large coop with a very large run. I can't say they free range as it is enclosed to keep them safe from neighborhood dogs, but it's very large probably 1/6 of an acre or more. I typically switch them to all flock, but if chick feed would be better for them I'd gladly do that.
All flock and chick feed are interchangeable, main difference is you can buy all flock in pellet form. Since you have males I would not feed layer at all, just stick with chick feed or all flock
 
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So my flock of 40 is very mixed right now. I had 24 chicks this year hatching between late May and mid September. I have them on all flock since I have about 10 cockrels and various ages of pullets. Would chick starter be better? I also always have oyster and egg shell on the side. My chickens are in a large coop with a very large run. I can't say they free range as it is enclosed to keep them safe from neighborhood dogs, but it's very large probably 1/6 of an acre or more. I typically switch them to all flock, but if chick feed would be better for them I'd gladly do that.
For most brands, their chicks, starter and their all flock are nutritionally. Almost identical. So unless your preferred brand is an exception to the general rule, you can use them essentially interchangeably.
However, if, for some reason, you need medicated feed, it is much easier to find medicated starter than all flock.
 
The birdseed @U_Stormcrow found did list calcium: minimum 0.25%, maximum 1.5% That is quite a wide range, but even the high end should be safe enough for non-laying chickens. At the low end, any chicken would need more calcium. A laying hen needs about 3 times as much calcium as a chicken that is not laying, so any laying hen would need much more calcium than that particular birdseed provides.

Unless other birdseed mixes have a much higher level of calcium, I would not worry about them raising the calcium of the entire diet to a dangerous level for any hens, laying or not.

Birdseed may have many other problems, but I'm not seeing "high calcium" as a serious concern when it is fed to chickens, unless there are some with MUCH higher calcium levels than the particular one where I could see the label when I went to the website.

I tried to look up how much calcium is in some birdseed ingredients, and I now have trouble believing that any birdseed can have 60-70 grams of calcium per cup.

Here is info on sunflower seeds from the USDA (human food source).
https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/food-details/170562/nutrients
1 cup is 140 grams
calcium is 109 mg (milligrams). Converted to grams, that is about 1/10 of a gram.

Here is nutrition info for millet (raw, presumably dry):
https://www.nutritionix.com/i/usda/millet-raw-1-cup/513fceb775b8dbbc21002dbb
1 cup is 200 grams
calcium is not listed
https://www.uhhospitals.org/health-...ry/article/nutritionfacts-v1/millet-raw-1-cup
This gives calcium of 16 mg in 1 cup of raw millet (that is between 1/100 and 2/100 of one gram.)

If a cup of sunflower seeds or millet weighs 140-200 grams, and I assume that other ingredients have similar weights, I don't see any possible way for it to have 60 or 70 grams of calcium. That would be 1/3 to 1/2 of the total weight being calcium! Oyster shell and chicken eggshells are about 1/3 calcium by weight. I think you must have been finding numbers for how many milligrams (mg) of calcium are in the birdseed ingredients, not how many grams (g).

A laying hen needs about 4-5 grams of calcium each day. In milligrams, that is four thousand to five thousand (4000 to 5000). A non-laying chicken needs a calcium rate about 1/3 to 1/4 what a layer does, so a non-layer might need a bit over 1 gram (1000 milligrams) of calcium each day, still much higher than is found in sunflower seeds or millet (or probably in other birdseed ingredients, although I am not going to look up every possible ingredient to try to check that.)
Wow, thank you for correcting me! I realized when I did the math I most likely mixed up pounds for cups somehow.
 

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