Hatch day - pip or pop?

[CovidtimeQuail]

IMHO: You're still several days early and there isn't much you can do for the batch until past hatch day. Presuming everything is going as scheduled, even if a few pipped early, you can't do much for them until the rest of the eggs are ready too.

My biggest regret on my first hatch is that I second-guessed myself too much.

 

[als77]

IMHO: You're still several days early and there isn't much you can do for the batch until past hatch day. Presuming everything is going as scheduled, even if a few pipped early, you can't do much for them until the rest of the eggs are ready too.

My biggest regret on my first hatch is that I second-guessed myself too much.

Yes. I've been telling myself the same, but my brain refuses to listen... lol But you are right of course. I just needed someone to tell me what I already knew. Thanks

I did see a beak before going to bed (and movement from that single egg - the second one in this thread), but no sounds.

Woke up this morning from some chirps. And since I had seen the one "beaking" yesterday, and it sounded that the chirps came from one bird, I were convinced that it was that little fellow. Didn't get up until one hour later though. Found the incubator like this;

They... look... dry... Must... open... incubator... now...

So strange. I have been researching for a long time, and have a word-document 15 pages long with notes, but still totally unprepared (in some ways) lol. My notes says that I should wait till the last one has hatched (and there might be some "late" hatchers considering how uneven my incubator was), or 24-48 hours. But then I read someone stating that these can't go as long as chicken on their yolk, so max 24 hours...

What do you guys says? Ideally I would wait 24 hours from now, which give anywhere from 25-34 hours from hatch to brooder. Is that ok or pushing it? (I can wait till this evening, i.e anywhere from 15-24 hours).

I'm not worried about the three guys here not being dry, but the (hopefully) others waiting to hatch.

 

[als77]

They sure do seem to be skilled at trying to kill themselves

This little fellow (top right corner) just hatched, clumpsied its way across the bator to the corner and fell head first and got stuck... So I broke the rules and pried open the incubator, pinched its butt and pulled him/her up. Luckily the humidity was rather high (since it has just hatched) so the humidity seems rather good still (well, on the high side).

Can still see a couple of eggs that are planning on hatching, but the first one in this thread has made no progress whatsoever Either DIS after pipping, stuck, or taking its time.

 

[als77]

OK, so I grabbed the first pipped egg and pealed away the shell (bit, by bit).
From what I can tell it seemed fully developped. There was some yellow goo that I assume is the yolk, so I guess it died right after pipping? It did pip not many hours past lockdown, but humidity was at 60% (+) [50% during the first 2 weeks). It was very early (pipped on day 14), but can't see why it didn't make it. Any thoughts? (the membrane did seem dry, but it has been pipped for quite a while now)

 

[MDBird]

Not sure but think if there is yolk in the shell then they didn't quite finish developing or called early quitters. When I've had a good hatch rate I've noticed almost no yolk or yellow. When my hatch rates aren't good I notice yellow in the shell.

 

[als77]

What about this one, guys? It doesn't show too good on the picture (sibling soccer...), but it pipped on the midle of the egg and not towards the top, so it has to remove a lot more of the shell than the others...

It has only been zipping for 2 hours. How long time should I give it before assisting? (it is still working, but not sure if it able to reposition its beak to break more of the shell - it has zipped quite far already)

 

[FloorCandy]

What about this one, guys? It doesn't show too good on the picture (sibling soccer...), but it pipped on the midle of the egg and not towards the top, so it has to remove a lot more of the shell than the others...

It has only been zipping for 2 hours. How long time should I give it before assisting? (it is still working, but not sure if it able to reposition its beak to break more of the shell - it has zipped quite far already)

I’ve had side pippers hatch on their own, but they often need help. There’s a better chance it will have curled toes or splay from malpositioning than a normal chick, I’ve found, but often they’re fine, and they’re just too big to turn properly. Your humidity is a bit high. I try to aim for about 55. It does go up as the chicks hatch and their wetness becomes humidity. But too high humidity can make them absorb too much and have trouble turning their bloated bodies.

The chick that died could have popped its yolk while trying to hatch. I’ve found that some chicks hatch really goopy and I speculate they broke their yolk, and they are often the ones that lay on their side for a really long time. Probably because they didn’t absorb the yolk for the energy they needed to hatch and thrive.

 

[als77]

I’ve had side pippers hatch on their own, but they often need help. There’s a better chance it will have curled toes or splay from malpositioning than a normal chick, I’ve found, but often they’re fine, and they’re just too big to turn properly. Your humidity is a bit high. I try to aim for about 55. It does go up as the chicks hatch and their wetness becomes humidity. But too high humidity can make them absorb too much and have trouble turning their bloated bodies.

The chick that died could have popped its yolk while trying to hatch. I’ve found that some chicks hatch really goopy and I speculate they broke their yolk, and they are often the ones that lay on their side for a really long time. Probably because they didn’t absorb the yolk for the energy they needed to hatch and thrive.

Yes, humidity went through the roof when they started hatching. I was aiming for 60-65% which the bator was at (ish - it has cold spots, so anywhere from 62-69%). So I allowed myself to assist the side-pipper (cfr different thread), seems to be doing ok (but tired).

hmm So there might have been hope for it after all? I never saw any movement of the egg, no moving beak, and no chirping.

 

[FloorCandy]

Yes, humidity went through the roof when they started hatching. I was aiming for 60-65% which the bator was at (ish - it has cold spots, so anywhere from 62-69%). So I allowed myself to assist the side-pipper (cfr different thread), seems to be doing ok (but tired).

hmm So there might have been hope for it after all? I never saw any movement of the egg, no moving beak, and no chirping.

I would not have opened my bator for an early pip that stalled either. There’s probably something wrong with the chick, so why risk potentially healthy ones for one who you might need to cull anyway. This stuff happens, that’s why they lay so many eggs, quantity over quality is the quail philosophy.

 

[Bigtom Turkey]

Watching this thread, keep me posted!