Hatch problems

what do clears look like when you candle?
I just went ahead and candled out of the 35, one was broken,13 look term. The one that piped is still alive. So I left them in the bator. These were 2doz ayman cemani and 1doz barnvelders from the same person through the mail. I will open all the dead or never started eggs in the morning. I love the idea of double checking my instruments, I never thought to do that. Thank you
 
I just went ahead and candled out of the 35, one was broken,13 look term. The one that piped is still alive. So I left them in the bator. These were 2doz ayman cemani and 1doz barnvelders from the same person through the mail. I will open all the dead or never started eggs in the morning. I love the idea of double checking my instruments, I never thought to do that. Thank you
Shipped eggs can be problematic.
If you are spending a lot of money on the eggs, you might want to consider getting a better incubator.
 
Which would you suggest?
Genesis 1588 is a very good styro bator. Rcom is good but I have not used one. Brinsea and Rcom are plastic and keep more stable temperature and humidity than the styro bators. The price can be a lot more but I have seen hatchers spend hundreds on hatching eggs--up to $10.00 per egg and not spend money on better equipment.

An example is not spending $25.00 on a brinsea spotcheck thermometer or the equivalent.

Shipped eggs need the best possible conditions to hatch if they have had poor packing and a hard trip. 50% hatch rate is good for shipped eggs.

Check sales and local sources like estate sales and craigs list. Brinsea discontinued the octagon series so you may find deals on left over stock for them.
 
Genesis 1588 is a very good styro bator. Rcom is good but I have not used one. Brinsea and Rcom are plastic and keep more stable temperature and humidity than the styro bators. The price can be a lot more but I have seen hatchers spend hundreds on hatching eggs--up to $10.00 per egg and not spend money on better equipment.

An example is not spending $25.00 on a brinsea spotcheck thermometer or the equivalent.

Shipped eggs need the best possible conditions to hatch if they have had poor packing and a hard trip. 50% hatch rate is good for shipped eggs.

Check sales and local sources like estate sales and craigs list. Brinsea discontinued the octagon series so you may find deals on left over stock for them.
 
Yeah, you are right. I spent nearly 450.00 on eggs. So far I've ended up with 2 ayman chicks. I looked at the brinsea and didn't buy it. Live and learn I guess. I think I have one more pecking, I hear it, but that still won't tip the scales my way.
 
Yeah, you are right. I spent nearly 450.00 on eggs. So far I've ended up with 2 ayman chicks. I looked at the brinsea and didn't buy it. Live and learn I guess. I think I have one more pecking, I hear it, but that still won't tip the scales my way.
It is all a learning process with hatching!

I hope you find a better incubator for next hatching season.
The good news is once you get the dream flock it is much easier to hatch out from them
 
Humidity for incubation was 45 to 55 hatch was 70. Incubator is farm innovators pro series model 4250. No idea about parent, like you say. I tried to hatch my own eggs last year. My humidity was too high I think and not enough ventilation. My goodness this is harder than I thought.

Yes, incubation is harder than it looks. There are so many variables, and so many things that CAN go wrong.

1. Before you plug your bator in the next time, I urge you to read ALL of "Hatching Eggs 101" in the learning center. No matter how often I incubate (home made bator(s) I do a review EVERY TIME.

2. Calibrate your thermometers and hygrometer. I use a minimum of 3 thermometers, and calibrate them to 100* using a good medical grade digital or mercury thermometer in a glass of water. IMO, calibrating to 32* is useless. If the thermometer is accurate at 32*, that's not going to tell you how accurate it is at 100*!!! I calibrate EVERY SEASON, even when using the same thermometers.

3. KNOW YOUR BATOR! Even forced air bators are apt to have warm or cool spots. Spend a week getting to know where those spots are. You can either rotate your eggs through those spots, or avoid them. Your decision in this regard depends whether those warm spots vary by more than a degree from your target. Put heat sinks in your bator to help stabalize temps.

4. If you use an electric turner, realize that there will be a warm spot near the turner motor.

5. Do dry incubation. I keep my humidity around 30 % during the first 17 days. Then increase to 65 - 70%.

6. CANDLE THOSE EGGS! Candling is a valuable tool. It tells you if your embryo's are developing at the right speed. It tells you if they are dying. It tells you if the air cell size is on target. If air cell size is off target, you use that information to adjust your humidity to correct the air cell size. Based on air cell size and location, I can make the decision re: hatching upright in cartons or laying eggs down on sides for hatch.

7. Do frequent temp and humidity checks, and keep written records of those checks. Even with a thermostat, I can detect developing trends, and correct them before they become lethal. I find that there can be a temp spike around day 7 and day 14 IMO due to increased embryo metabolism.
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Start with quality eggs: If you are new to incubation, and don't have fertile eggs from your own flock, start with some mutt eggs from a local farm. Use clean, well shaped eggs. Candle before set, and remove any eggs that are overly porous. Best if eggs are less than 7 - 10 days old. Don't refrigerate before incubation. Or if they have been chilled, bring them to room temp before setting them.

If using eggs from your own flock, condition the birds for a few weeks before collecting eggs by putting the birds on multi vits and a good quality chicken feed. Increase protein a bit. Offer extra calcium free choice. While conditioning the birds, keep an eye on your fertility rates.
 

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