Heating my coop..

Smoke detectors sound good in theory, but in practice a) normal household smoke detectors work poorly, when they work at all, in high-dust barn environments -- I can tell you they are fairly useless in a horse barn, and chciken coops are even dustier; b) the batteries that power them tend to konk out at very low temperatures; and c) the chances of you hearing an alarm beeping in your coop outdoors across your lawn when you are in the front of the house are pretty small, and even if you did hear it, quite honestly it is rare to save chickens from a smoky coop and have them live.

Critter Crazed, have you looked at my Cold Coop page (link in .sig below) which discusses exactly this issue, you might find some useful information or ideas there.

In particular, it is vital to make sure you maintain GOOD VENTILATION all winter -- if you close the coop up tight in an attempt to hold in heat or keep out cold, you end up with humid air that will give chickens frostbite at much milder temperatures than they would in dry (well ventilated) air. This is *really important* for avoiding frostbite; and no, a couple of little hole-saw holes, or cracks between boards and roofing, do *not* constitute adequate ventilation.

Honestly, with your coop being smallish, you may not need much if any heat in there as long as you insulate well and maintain good ventilation. A droppings board cleaned every morning will also help keep the air dry (it removes about half the daily poo output right then and there, which is a major contributor of water vapor).

If you *do* decide you need to run something for heat, in a smallish low coop like that a 60-100w regular lightbulb would almost certainly be adequate. Much cheaper to run than a heatlamp and not nearly so much of a fire hazard (b/c of not getting as hot). You still need to wire it safely, and locate it such that chickens cannot burn their combs or break the bulb.

It is really really nice to have an electric water heater or heated waterer base, but not absolutely essential if you are willing to haul water out to them a coupla times a day.

DO insulate, though. If budget is an issue, you could stack hay around the walls and use styrofoam sheets scrounged from stores (that get it as packing material for mdse) on the top, covered with plywood or something similar. (You do have plywood ont he walls, yes, not just tarpaper? just making sure I'm understanding correctly).

Good luck, have fun,

Pat
 
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First of all, of course I have plywood.
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We put plywood up and then stapled on some tarpaper around it to kind of prevent drafts if there were any cracks inbetween the plywood pieces. and to protect the plywood from rain.

Will the styrofoam around the coop help? Like on the inside of the coop or the outside? I will save the leaves from our yard and put them in bags and stack them around the coop.

And how would I chicken-proof a light? I'm a little confused on that. Should I put a metal cage around it?


Thank you very much.
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you might NOT, but you MIGHT. keep it clean. check the batteries. it's like anything else. it's HOW you use it.

people use baby monitors in their coops all the time also. they work wonderfully. but they have to be kept clean and you have to check them. it takes time and effort.
 
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Ok, just checking, I've learned not to take things for granted on this board
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That sounds like a good arrangement as far as preventing random drafts.

Will the styrofoam around the coop help? Like on the inside of the coop or the outside? I will save the leaves from our yard and put them in bags and stack them around the coop.

Inside or outside, either is fine, you just need a barrier either way (if the styrofoam is inside, you need something peckproof; if the styrofoam is outside, you need something to keep the wind rain and sun off the styrofoam. Bags of leaves are good too, but I would also use styrofoam wherever possible and in particular I would use it on the ceiling/roof.

And how would I chicken-proof a light? I'm a little confused on that. Should I put a metal cage around it?

Either hang it somewhere they can't easily bump against it, or buy one of the jelly-jar or cage style protectors for the fixture, or make a wire guard yourself.

Good luck, have fun,

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There is unfortunately no way that I know of to keep the sensor of household smoke alarms clean, as it is inside the plastic housing.

If a person REALLY wants a smoke detector in their coop -- tho as I say, the chances of chickens rescued from a smoky coop surviving are very poor, and the chances of *rescuing* them are poor too -- then what you want is to invest in one of the barn-type ones, that are MADE FOR high dust environments and can be relied on.

Good luck, have fun,

Pat
 
miss_jayne I see. I will look into a smoke detector just in case.
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I was thinking about a baby monitor!! I thought I was insane for even thinking of it.
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Maybe I'll look into that too?


Smoke inhalation isn't a real problem because they have access to their run at all times. I don't want to close them into the coop, I want them to have free access. So if there is a fire or something they would be able to go out the door.
Unless the fire is blocking the door.. I'll put the light on the opposite side of the door.


PERFECT idea with the jar thing. I totally forgot about those lights. Actually I think we have one!

This is my plan: hang a jar light in the coop on the opposite side of the door.


Okay, I have a question then
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, will the added light bother them? I mean if it's on all night won't that prevent them from sleeping?
 
We have a Freecycle around here that you can post "Wanted" posts on. If you have a local Freecycle, post that you want a baby monitor. Most people will give them away for free, and they work great! I have a wireless baby monitor camera for my coop. "Chicken cam".
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you might NOT, but you MIGHT. keep it clean. check the batteries. it's like anything else. it's HOW you use it.

people use baby monitors in their coops all the time also. they work wonderfully. but they have to be kept clean and you have to check them. it takes time and effort.

I plan on doing this, as well.

The smoke detector is a great idea... thanks for that.

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I've never heard of Freecycle before. We do have a ..SwapShop I think it's called? It's a radio show. Maybe I'll call in and make an ad for a baby monitor.
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I've always wanted one in the coop but, like I said before, I thought I was insane for that.
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Thanks for all the information everyone.
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It doesn't work like that with other livestock, unfortunately... I do not know specifically what chickens do in a coop fire though.

If you are going to leave the popdoor open at all times, a) you are going to have a reeaaaaaalllly cold coop on winter nights, and not *still* air either despite your burlap on the door, I wouldn't do it; and b) you will be putting a dangerous amount of faith in chickenwire and in predators being too lazy to dig.

Leaving the popdoor open at night is a pretty common way to come out one morning to a pile of feathers...

Okay, I have a question then
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, will the added light bother them? I mean if it's on all night won't that prevent them from sleeping?

For some flocks yes, for some no; plenty other options do exist for keeping them warm, if this concerns you or if it turns out to be a problem.

Good luck, have fun,

Pat​
 

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