Hello all, worming advice needed!

[MargoBarbara]

Hi all-this is a good site and very helpful for all sorts of chicken advice. I've been treating one of my chicks with Safeguard paste for gapeworm and I was advised by the local feed store to use a small dose of Piperazine in the water as a spring dewormer. What I would like to know is, what about the eggs during treatment, do I throw them away or use them? I have been finding very conflicting views on other sites and I am not sure what to think. On the back of the piperazine, they suggest the quantity for layers and broilers, so obviously it's used on those birds. Granted, it is their product but I see that it's prohibited in Germany and some people view it as a poison. So I'm very puzzled...

 

[Kelsie2290]

Hello and Welcome To BYC! You might like to post on the Managing Your Flock forum www.backyardchickens.com/f/2/managing-your-flock ... most wormers aren't approved for use in egg layers or no withdrawal time has has been established (or ppm allowed in eggs etc) testing is expensive and drug companies don't do it unless they have to .. a lot of people go ahead and eat the eggs anyhow, others wait the two weeks or so or go by the withdrawel time of whatever animal the drug is usually used for if it is off label... here is the Merck's manual overview http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/pou...of_helminthiasis_in_poultry.html?qt=&sc=&alt=

 

[BantamFan4Life]

Welcome to BYC!

 

[Mountain Peeps]

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Hello and Welcome To BYC! You might like to post on the Managing Your Flock forum www.backyardchickens.com/f/2/managing-your-flock ... most wormers aren't approved for use in egg layers or no withdrawal time has has been established (or ppm allowed in eggs etc) testing is expensive and drug companies don't do it unless they have to .. a lot of people go ahead and eat the eggs anyhow, others wait the two weeks or so or go by the withdrawel time of whatever animal the drug is usually used for if it is off label... here is the Merck's manual overview http://www.merckmanuals.com/vet/pou...thiasis_in_poultry.html?qt=&sc=&alt=[/quote/]

X2. And welcome to BYC!! So happy you've joined us!

 

[drumstick diva]

The only thing I know about piperazine was it was in a chocolate base to worm puppies as young as 3 weeks old. Funny because now chocolate is considered poisonous to dogs. Probably was artificial chocolate anyway. It seemed very gentle and I used it for years in dogs with no results. I was just worming them routinely.

Then I leased a female for breeding. She was loaded with tape worms& fleas. I used the piperazine on her two pups at 3 weeks of age. Next morning I thought they had been playing with a ball of yarn. A closer look and I was horrified to see just balls of worms crawling all over each other. Thought I would

. I had never seen anything like it. Then I realized the product did work, it was just that my puppies were clear. I had to worm her two pups 3 times to get them all.

Of course puppies don't lay eggs. But, I did want to point out how gentle it seemed on them.

I'm guessing it would be fine for round worms in chickens., it shouldn't be such a terrible thing to throw the eggs out for the short time till the worming was well past- in order to have healthier chickens.

 

[TwoCrows]

Welcome to BYC!

Some people will eat the eggs after worming with Piperazine as there is confusion about this wormer. And others will go 2 weeks without eating the eggs just in case. So if I were you, I would go 2 weeks and pitch out the eggs just in case. You don't want a reaction from this drug. Don't feed them back to the hens as you will be giving them more of the drug.

Good luck with your flock and welcome to our flock!

 

[MargoBarbara]

Thanks for the welcome and advice. I think I will phone the feed shop from whom I got my original advice and ask. I will pitch the eggs-sadly, they are going through a phase of laying really well because it's spring. Oh well.
We have 5 by the way. All lay green/blue shelled eggs.

 

[gander007]

You got some good answers