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Hello from Froggy Bottom Farm in Beavercreek, OR

Discussion in 'New Member Introductions' started by tigger4, Nov 13, 2013.

  1. tigger4

    tigger4 Hatching

    Nov 13, 2013
    Couple of retired people living on a hobby farm. We raise Dexter cattle, American Guinea Hogs, and have 18, now 17:( chickens.

    Which is why I decided to finally join instead of lurking!

    My mixed breed chickens have a nice coop, 6 nesting boxes and over 2 acres where they free range until night when they are locked tight in their coop. Our fence is excellent with a scare wire tight at the bottom plus the chickens have their very own border collie that herds and protects them.

    I lost one of my 2 1/2 year old bard rocks this morning She looks perfect with the exception of a little poop stuck to her feathers below her vent - red comb, perfect feathers, no visible mites or lice and no problems until a couple of days ago. She stopped moving - would just stand in the driveway with her eyes closed. I put her in a nest box for the night and found her dead this am.

    Worms? The rest of the flock is fine with the exception of one golden laced wyandotte that seems to be in a continuous molt. She's been treated with poultry dust. And I use DE in the coop plus they have plenty of dust to bathe in in our tractor shed.

    A year ago I used Wazine in their water for a day because I had a number of poopy bottoms. Is there any other treatment for worms?

    Thanks and i"m so happy to be a member.


  2. Teri Metcalf

    Teri Metcalf Songster

    Aug 22, 2013
    College Station, Texas
    Greetings from Texas! We're also a couple of retirees, enjoying vegetable gardening and chickens on our one-acre just outside the city limits of College Station. We share 13 hens, a rooster, and a cockerel with our over the fence neighbors, and our chickens just forage back and forth.

    Sorry that you lost your barred rock this morning. We lost one a couple of months ago, and it was my fault. I was backing up out of the garage and didn't check carefully in the rear-view mirror. I barely bumped her, and there was no blood, but it doesn't take much. I'm vegetarian, so my husband just buried her.

    Anyhow, enjoy your flock and enjoy this site.
  3. liz9910

    liz9910 Crowing

    Apr 8, 2012
    Northern California
  4. drumstick diva

    drumstick diva Still crazy after all these years. Premium Member

    Aug 26, 2009
    Out to pasture
  5. All Henned Up

    All Henned Up Muffs or Tufts

    I use Valbazen for worms it is a broad spectrum wormer that gets all the different kinds of worms, unlike wayzine is only for roundworm, plus you put it in there mouth and you know everone has been treated. valbazen also kills them slowly so there is no chance of intestinal blockage like other wormers that kill all the worms at once like safeguard and wayzine.

    The depluming mite is only killed by sulfer, your chicken that has the continuous molt might have them, I had a couple that were bare on there backs for mounths and after using the sulfer they grew there feathers back in a couple weeks. here is some info on all mites and how to kill them.

    MITES on fowl are sometimes mistaken for lice. Actually they are quite different.

    Parasitic mites are so small that they are barely visible to the naked eve. All mites have four pairs of legs in their adult stage. Lice have three pairs of legs. Some of the mites are bloodsuckers. They may live for a long time without food. They and lice are controlled by different methods.

    Two groups of mites attack poultry. One spends the greater part of its life cycle in crevices about the poultry houses, from which it makes nightly forages upon the roosting birds to suck their blood. The second group spends the entire life cycle on the birds; they burrow into the skin, into the shafts of the feathers, beneath the scales of the legs, and into the internal organs.

    Of the several kinds of mites that may infest poultry anywhere in the United States, the commonest and perhaps the most injurious is the chicken mite (Dermanyssus gallinae). It is also known as the red chicken mite or the roost mite. The adult is not more than one thirty-second inch long when fully engorged with blood about the size of the head of a pin. Chicken mites are gray when unfed and reddish after having had a blood meal. When many of them infest a poultry house, they can be found by lifting a clod of manure off the roosts. Joints in the roosts are often surrounded by tiny, salt-and-pepper specks, which are the excrement of the hidden mites.

    After taking a blood meal from the bird, the female chicken mite finds a crevice, usually on the roost, and deposits a few eggs. She then returns to the bird for additional meals. She may deposit 35 eggs in her lifetime. Larvae, which hatch from the eggs in 1 or 2 days, do not feed but shed their skins and then become nymphs. The nymphs attack the birds, suck blood, molt, suck blood a second time, molt again, and become adults. In warm weather or in heated buildings, the entire cycle may take only 1 week. Enormous infestations may build up in poultry houses in 3 or 4 weeks.

    The northern fowl mite (Bdellonyssus sylviarum), also called the feather mite, is distributed widely over the United States, but is encountered less frequently than the chicken mite. It looks like the chicken mite but has a different life history.

    Northern fowl mites normally spend their entire lives on chickens or other birds, but they are sometimes found in birds' nests and can breed on or off the birds. Their entire life cycle lasts 8 to 12 days. They can be found on the birds during the day. They move rapidly. If infested birds are picked up, the mites crawl over the handler's arms and sometimes on his clothing. They usually congregate about the bird's vent and give the feathers a soiled appearance. Their voracious bloodsucking habits may irritate the skin severely. Heavy infestations may develop in a short time.

    Another mite that lives continuously on chickens and other birds is the scaly-leg mite (Knemidokoptes mutans). It attacks the unfeathered parts of the legs, burrows into the skin, and causes a condition like mange of livestock. It is generally found on older birds in the flock. It is less prevalent than the chicken mite and the northern fowl mite.

    Scaly-leg mites usually are first noticed between the toes. As they multiply they work their way up the leg. They cause the scales to separate from the skin and the feet and legs to swell and become deformed. Occasionally they may spread to the comb and wattles. Scaly-leg mites are too small to be seen with the naked eye, but the symptoms they produce are detected easily.

    The practice of culling old birds has eliminated the scaly-leg mite to a large degree, and it is now rarely seen except in small farm flocks.

    Closely related to the scaly-leg mite is the depluming (or body-mange) mite of chickens and other birds (Knemidokoptes laevis var. gallinae). It also passes its entire life on the bird. It burrows into the skin at the base of the feathers. It is found only on the feathered areas of the body, usually over the back and sides. The mites cause intense irritation, so that the fowl may pluck out or break off their feathers. You can see this tiny mite only with a lens or microscope.

    Most of the mites parasitic on chickens also can live on turkeys and other fowl, but they do not trouble turkeys quite so much as they do chickens. Apparently the management practices used for turkeys are not conducive to the propagation of mites. The most common mite affecting turkeys is the chicken mite. The northern fowl mite occasionally is troublesome. Both may be controlled with the same measures used against mites on chickens.

    Severe infestations of mites do more damage than lice do. Mites that burrow into the skin produce intense skin irritation and heavy formation of scabs. Such injury retards the birds and spoils their appearance when dressed. Some species cause the loss of feathers, thereby interfering with the regulation of body heat. The nests of laying hens sometimes have so many chicken mites that the birds cannot remain in them.

    Anemia, caused by the loss of blood, is common. Heavily parasitized fowl become thin, weak, and restless. Egg production falls. Young and laying birds may die. The injury due to mites that live in the internal organs has not been calculated, but may be sizable.

    An indirect loss due to bloodsucking mites results from their ability to transmit disease, such as fowl cholera and Newcastle disease, among flocks.

    For each of the four kinds of mites commonly found on chickens, a different method of attack is required. It is therefore essential to determine what species is present. If two or more species are present simultaneously, separate treatments will be necessary.

    To CONTROL infestations of the chicken mite, an insecticide should be applied to the poultry house. It is not necessary to treat the birds.

    The first step is to clean the building, nesting boxes, floor, and dropping pits thoroughly; burn the litter; and dispose of manure. Dried manure should be scraped from roosts and perches.

    This cleaning should be followed by a liberal application of 0.5-percent Lindane or 2.5-percent DDT spray to the entire interior. Lindane or malathion applied to the roosts as a 1-percent paint is also satisfactory against the chicken mite. Lindane and malathion have a further advantage in that if the birds are returned to the buildings at the close of the day, all their lice will be destroyed.

    With any of these insecticides, a second application may be required in 10 to 14 days, particularly in heavy infestations. It is not easy to eradicate chicken mites entirely.

    Because the northern fowl mite remains on the birds most of the time, insecticidal dusts and dips applied directly to the birds are effective control measures.

    Sulfur has been used for many years. The treatment of individual birds with powdered sulfur is satisfactory if liberal amounts of dust are used and if application is thorough. Dipping the birds in sulfur baths is laborious, but the results are gratifying. Dips may be prepared by mixing 2 ounces of finely ground sulfur (325 mesh) and 1 ounce of powdered soap or detergent to a gallon of lukewarm water. The feathers should be wet to the skin, and the head ducked. It is always advisable to dip fowl on warm, sunny days or in heated buildings. Treatment with either sulfur dusts or dips should be repeated as required.

    An effective and quick treatment to eliminate northern fowl mites consists of applying to the roosts or litter a chemical, the vapors of which will destroy the mites on the birds. Undiluted nicotine sulfate (40 percent) may be applied with a brush to the roosts, perches, and other roosting surfaces, at the rate of 1 to 1.5 ounces for each 30 feet of roost. As nicotine sulfate volatilizes rapidly, it should be used shortly before roosting time. About three applications a week apart are required to end infestations. The buildings should be ventilated after nicotine sulfate is used.

    Another easy and less hazardous way is to treat the litter with malathion. A 4-percent malathion dust applied to the litter only, 1 pound to 50 square feet of floor space, will control the northern fowl mite. The dust should be applied uniformly with a plunger or rotary hand duster or a shaker can or jar.

    An old, simple, and effective treatment for the scaly-leg mite consists in dipping the feet and legs of infested birds in crude petroleum. Usually one treatment is enough, but a second treatment about a month later may be required in heavy infestations.

    A mixture of 1 part of kerosene to 2 parts of raw linseed oil also may be used as a dip for the feet and legs. Repeated treatments every 2 to 4 weeks, until healing takes place, may be required with this mixture.

    For controlling the depluming mite, old, established remedies continue to be effective. The birds may be dipped in a bath containing 2 ounces of wettable sulfur per gallon of water. If spot treatment on a few birds is all that seems necessary, a sulfur ointment can be rubbed into the affected areas of the skin. The ointment can be prepared by mixing 1 tablespoonful of flowers of sulfur in one-half cup of lard or vaseline.

    Welcome and enjoy BYC!
    Steve :frow
  6. tigger4

    tigger4 Hatching

    Nov 13, 2013
    Thank you for the warm welcomes and great information. I think I will try some sulfur dust on my molty chicken and since the few that have poopy bottoms are pretty minor, wait and see if they clear up on their own. They have in the past. And restart the apple cider vinegar in their water. Meanwhile, I will DE and poultry dust the coop and put in a fresh layer of nature's bedding - the pine pellets. I clean my coop a couple times a year anyway, and until the last couple of months all my hens looked great. Its cold here now and wet, so my goal is to keep the hens warm and dry. But I must say, my hens are truly Oregonians. They don't mind the rain - always out hunting and scratching no matter what the weather :)

    Have a lovely Sunday and thanks again.


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