I would say that they are both roos... very nice ones! That is hard to find, out of the 4 maturing here right now, the others are still babies, I have 1 meanish one. He is ok with my daughter and I, we do the feeding, but doesn't really care for anyone else. If you can get away with keeping them then do it! Otherwise I am sure there are people looking for friendly roosters! And I agree with production reds...