Help! About to incubate for the 1st time & recevied double the hatching eggs asked for - feeling ov

[VeggieMinette]

It is a low pip but I don't think he is quite ready. Not far away. Just observe that he doesn't dry out too much. There seems to be good humidity. If it is chirping that is a good sign.

Great to hear (read)! Thank you. We've had 10 hatch so far and are expecting 12 more.

We lost one who pipped, zipped and then nothing. I've left the little one in the bater trying to be optimistic but I think it's gone....sad

 

[Guyswithchicks]

Great to hear (read)! Thank you. We've had 10 hatch so far and are expecting 12 more.

We lost one who pipped, zipped and then nothing. I've left the little one in the bater trying to be optimistic but I think it's gone....sad

you are welcome.
Oh no. I have only had that scenario once before. I was so astonished because I was watching it zip and then it just stopped and died. One push and it would have been out.
The process of hatching is extremely strenuous and not just on the chicks!

 

[AmyLynn2374]

Oh no! This little one broke through in the middle part of the egg. I promised that I wouldn't interfere but I could see the tip of its beak so I just moved the membrane away from it's nostril and put it back into the bator. It's chirping, so I'm hopeful. Any other suggestions??

He's got good air, now just keep the membrane moist because with that much exposed it can dry even with good humisity in there. If you have some bacitracin you can rub a little of that on the membrane to help keep it from drying or just keep an eye on it and if it looks like it's dryng take a wet q-tip and moisten it. There's a chance that it will hatch on it's own, but prepare yourself for an assist in case. If you haven't read the assisted hatching thread I highly recommend it. My first successful hatch I had one like this, onlt the foot was up over the beak and it's toes stuck out when I widendend the pip. Did an assist once it was ready and (my first assist) and ended up witha beautiful austrolorp hen that is an awesome layer! Good luck!

Great to hear (read)! Thank you. We've had 10 hatch so far and are expecting 12 more.

We lost one who pipped, zipped and then nothing. I've left the little one in the bater trying to be optimistic but I think it's gone....sad

Awesome on the 10!

 

[puppies9099]

this little guy will be fine it happens with lots of chicks just don't put him with other chicks or the will peck it and pull out his intestines and he will die sorry for being drastic it's just what happens or they can get flattened

 

[puppies9099]

Oh no! This little one broke through in the middle part of the egg. I promised that I wouldn't interfere but I could see the tip of its beak so I just moved the membrane away from it's nostril and put it back into the bator. It's chirping, so I'm hopeful. Any other suggestions??

He might need assistance it will be very difficult for him to get out on his own and what kind of eggs are you hatching? (JUST CURIOUS)

 

[VeggieMinette]

He might need assistance it will be very difficult for him to get out on his own and what kind of eggs are you hatching? (JUST CURIOUS)

They are a few cream legbars and a bunch of English Orpingtons.
I don't think he/she made it. It was struggling to get out all morning and I was assisting here and there by gently opening the pip without touching the membrane. It managed to free a leg but now it's not chirping or moving.

 

[puppies9099]

They are a few cream legbars and a bunch of English Orpingtons.
I don't think he/she made it. It was struggling to get out all morning and I was assisting here and there by gently opening the pip without touching the membrane. It managed to free a leg but now it's not chirping or moving.

I'm sorry for your loss sometimes when they need help out of the egg they are weaker and don't make it that happened to me with lots of eggs and it is terribly when they die cause you waited so long to see them hatch and then they see a glimpse of the world and die I am so sorry for your first hatch to end up with a few dead chicks

 

[Guyswithchicks]

They are a few cream legbars and a bunch of English Orpingtons.
I don't think he/she made it. It was struggling to get out all morning and I was assisting here and there by gently opening the pip without touching the membrane. It managed to free a leg but now it's not chirping or moving.

I think that the chick was malpositioned VeggieMinette. It's legs are in the air cell end whereas the should be the other way around. That would explain such a low external pip in the first place.
With regard to an assisted hatch if you choose to do it, personally I feel that if you do not see excessive blood or what appears to be a "flow" (a dramatic term) of blood, and if the chick is full term, I would attempt to fully hatch the chick. Helping stage by stage otherwise can, in my experience leave a totally compromised chick.
It is a hard call to make. But I know from lots of experience that some assisted chicks do die but thankfully more do go on to thrive and become valuable additions to the flock.

 

[Guyswithchicks]

Oh by the way, that isn't a criticism. I think you are doing a fantastic job.

 

[AmyLynn2374]

I think that the chick was malpositioned VeggieMinette. It's legs are in the air cell end whereas the should be the other way around. That would explain such a low external pip in the first place.
With regard to an assisted hatch if you choose to do it, personally I feel that if you do not see excessive blood or what appears to be a "flow" (a dramatic term) of blood, and if the chick is full term, I would attempt to fully hatch the chick. Helping stage by stage otherwise can, in my experience leave a totally compromised chick.
It is a hard call to make. But I know from lots of experience that some assisted chicks do die but thankfully more do go on to thrive and become valuable additions to the flock.

Most of my assists, I think all actually, have been stage by stage, due to the vascular system between the chick and egg still being active at some point in the egg. I've never had a compromised chick. However, I agree, especially with malepositioned that if the vascular system has shut down, (though it's rare that it has for most of us before we start an assist because most people can't wait 24 hours plus) to go ahead and at least do a full zip.

When doing an assisted hatch, it's best to start the assist, go as far as you can, moistening the membranes so that you can see the veining and stopping when you get to an area of veining. Moisten the membranes and replace them for another hour or two before trying again. A good share of the time mine end up finishing the hatch themselves, which is excellent because they get to strengthen those muscles.
It is a hard to descision. I usually assist my malepositions after 18-24 hours. Haven't lost one yet. I agree, many people don't believe in assisting because it causes "weak chicks", but my experience has been just the opposite. Out of the assists that I've done, and there's been a few, I have only lost 1 and that was just over week later because of digestive problems, all the rest have gone on to be healthy very productive members of my flock. People shouldn't write a chick off that needs a little help so quickly.