HELP - chicks won't stop picking (LONG, sorry)

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I am at my wit's end. I hatched out a replacement flock of crossbred chicks (19 in all) out of Black Sex Link, Red Comet and EE hens crossed with a Black Australorp roo on June 11. (I lost the parent flock to coyotes in May but had their fertile eggs.) The parent hens were hand-me-downs from my MIL that came with picking problems that cleared up after moult.

Of the 19 chicks, I adopted out 5 at 5-weeks old and had the remaining 14 in a 7'x6' coop with an attached 6'x16' run. (The run was two adjacent and I cut a large opening in the wire between them to combine them into one.) At about 6-weeks old they started feather picking and killed two EEx pullets (I think from shock). I grabbed four other bloodied chicks and moved them to a brooder in the garage. The four garage babies in the garage were crowded, I admit, and last week I lost a pullet to vent picking (they are 9-weeks old now).

I moved the three remaining garage babies back to the main coop a few days ago and immediately also took four extra roos and a mean giant pullet out into separate housing. I was left with three garage babies (a roo, a runt pullet and another pullet) and three other pullets who were never moved. The two groups don't mix well.

I want more than 5 pullets, so yesterday I introduced three BLRW pullet chicks (about 2 weeks younger than mine). Now I have 3 groups living in one coop...the garage babies mostly stay in the coop, the three BLRW chicks stick together and the other three gang up and pick on the BLRW.

I'm feeding layer developer (crumbles right now) and have fresh water, and they get produce out of the garden frequently. (I gave them some grass, too, and they couldn't figure out what to do with it and let it dry up.) There is small gravel in the run and I throw out extra from time to time. Do they need oyster shell? What else do they need? I can't imagine they need more space (do they??). Did I screw up by separating and reintroducing, and is there any hope for me expanding my flock?

HELP!!!

(SIDENOTE: the 4 extra roos and 1 mean pullet, now living together (and listed for sale) get along fine and haven't fought at all! Figures! GRRR.)
 
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shouldn't they be on chick start and grow. at that age? maybe their just crazy. It shoulds like you your coop is right size. the run alittle small. Before I made my run big and allowed evening free range, My orps werent being nice to each other, now they are.
 
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Both the coop and run are a bit on the small side for 14 birds. They might work fine for easy-going chickens, but could definitely exacerbate any issues with fighting and feather-picking that you have. I would try to increase both any way that you can. Do they free-range at all? You could also increase protein by giving them some game feed, washed cottage cheese, meal worms, black oil sunflower seeds, etc...I would put out oystershell as they get near 14 weeks so there is no problems with lack of calcium. Make sure they have roosts in their run, places where they can run and hide, obstacles, and multiple feeders and waterers. If they have to stay in a run at all times, mix scratch with sand or mulch and throw it around so they have to work to find it. Good Luck!
 
Thanks for the ideas, guys. I'll add another feeder and waterer and work on the roosts (ramshackle right now). I do give them fresh produce every day and will try the black oil sunflower seeds. They don't free-range yet (I lost the parents to coyotes so I'm a little gunshy). I do want to build a new coop in a different location (bigger with a larger run) so will work on the funds and on DH for that one.
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The other five birds are in "boy jail" (getting along great) awaiting new homes (or butchering).

Their food right now (crumbles by mistake, meant to get pellets) is layer developer/grower with 20% protein. Is this the right stuff (maybe in pellet form instead)?
 

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