Help choosing flock rooster from batch of roos

Jun 14, 2019
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Hello!

Sorry this might be long winded --

I need some suggestions and help with deciding how to choose a flock rooster for our hens. We got 17 heritage male chicks in April so we could choose one to keep. After we got our boys, I read that roosters raised with flock mates (rather than raised generationally) may not make the best flock rooster because they often don't develop the best behaviors. After raising these boys, I can see why. Kind of Lord of the Flies in our bachelor pad sometimes. Anyway, we chose the mixed heavy lot from McMurray so we could see what breeds we liked best. Our hens are all different breeds and we would only be raising for personal use, so we don't mind mixed breeding. We ended up with: Speckled Sussex, Delaware, Light Brahma, New Hampshire, and Barred Rocks.

My husband and I both liked the Brahmas for their size and temperament, so last week we grabbed one of the largest of the three and stuck him in with our hens at night. Turns out, he is terrified of the hens and a couple of them go out of their way to terrorize him, and he tries to avoid them as much as possible. He is as big or bigger than all the hens, but he is younger by about a year. He has also decided now that he is alone and not with his rooster flock mates that he should come up to me and try and peck/bite my legs or feet. He never did this in the pen with the others. I try to ignore him, walk around, etc. and if he does peck me, when I go to grab him and push him to the ground he runs off screaming right away. So at this point I'm thinking, maybe we chose wrong? Why is he such a wussy? I know Brahmas take longer to mature so maybe he just hasn't figured out he's a real rooster? But I also don't know how long/how much of the coming up to peck me I should tolerate.

We also ended up with a small Speckled Sussex cockerel in the same hen area. He was getting picked on pretty bad so we had to separate him from the other roosters until we could dispatch him. However, the girls are much more tolerant of him, and he seems more savvy about avoiding them when they are pissy, but still kind of hangs out near them. He also avoids me when I come around, which I prefer. He's so small though, and not really ideal body size at his age to keep as our breeding rooster.

Our girls free range during the day but we sectioned everyone off in a smaller area when we first added the Brahma, with today being the first day all the hens, Brahma, and tiny Sussex got to be out together.

So I guess my questions are this - if you had to choose a rooster from a bunch of flock mates, what qualities do you look for? Biggest? Top of pecking order? Best personality? We have a few aggressive ones that I would outright not choose (one New Hampshire seems legitimately to have a screw loose). We also have some that ended up pretty small which don't seem like winners either. But it seems really hard to judge their personality when they are all in the bachelor pad which is why I am hoping someone will have some advice! Should we just try a rooster for a couple weeks at a time with the hens and see which one works out best? We're kind of at a loss here.

Thank you all in advance :)
 
I personally like to choose the ones that have really pretty genetics for example I love speckled Sussex genetics so I would pick that one. But since that doesn’t matter to you, I think you should try each rooster out each week and pick the ones out that have the best personality and seem to be able to protect the girls well and then choose out of those which ones look the best.
 
I do love a rooster that has great coloring but I also love a rooster who isn't aggressive. If you are debating which rooster, let the ladies decide. It seems so far, they are in favor of the speckled sussex, he isn't too rough on them, and the ladies let him mingle without any issues.
 
You would have to choose which one/s to keep based on your goals. Since you aren't interested in breeding pure, you would probably do well to choose a solid cockerel with a stable temperament. It's hard to choose when they're young because they change as they grow. The hens will do a lot to shape their personalities as they mature. It's a tough choice!
 
They are just over 4 months old - too young to start integrating them? They’re a bit teenagery for sure.
I wouldn't think they're too young to integrate. They will need time to get used to their new arrangements. The hens especially! It takes a young cockerel time to earn their respect. Good luck! I'll be doing the same in a few months.
 
We got 17 heritage male chicks in April so we could choose one to keep.

Sounds like a great plan to me!

After we got our boys, I read that roosters raised with flock mates (rather than raised generationally) may not make the best flock rooster because they often don't develop the best behaviors. After raising these boys, I can see why. Kind of Lord of the Flies in our bachelor pad sometimes.

I think the problems usually happen when a single cockerel is raised with just pullets his own age--he's bigger and stronger and can be a bully. Yours are learning that they cannot push everybody around, because the others push back (literally or figuratively).

He has also decided now that he is alone and not with his rooster flock mates that he should come up to me and try and peck/bite my legs or feet. He never did this in the pen with the others... don't know how long/how much of the coming up to peck me I should tolerate.

Behavior can certainly change when they are put in a different situation. But I predict this will get worse, not better-- so I would butcher that one, and try one of the 16 others.

We have a few aggressive ones that I would outright not choose (one New Hampshire seems legitimately to have a screw loose).

I recommend butchering the ones that are obviously WRONG in temperament. The sooner they are gone, the easier it is to figure out the remaining ones (who might also act different when some are removed.)

Also inspect for any with obvious physical problems (like crossed beak, that can make it harder for them to eat.) Butcher them too.

We Should we just try a rooster for a couple weeks at a time with the hens and see which one works out best?

That is probably the best way to sort it out now.

You may eventually have to decide between nice (the small Sussex) and big but less-nice. But with as many as you currently have, I think you've got a good chance of finding one that's both big and nice :)

Roosters do tend to behave a bit differently if they have other roosters around vs. being the only one in the flock. You could try putting two cockerels with the hens at a time, and see how that goes. (If two works better than one, you could think about whether to ultimately keep two instead of one.)
 
I wouldn't think they're too young to integrate. They will need time to get used to their new arrangements. The hens especially! It takes a young cockerel time to earn their respect. Good luck! I'll be doing the same in a few months.

Good luck to you too! We are going to need some leg bands to mark which ones we've tried, but are waiting for dispatch, or that are contenders for the final round. Sounds like the Brahma is going back in the bachelor pad though.
 

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