HELP. Dog Attack Chickens large gaping wounds

[Lisaew]

Hi, my dog attacked 2 of my chickens badly yesterday. I went to Tractor supply and the suggest blue blok, I went home and flushed at 1st with saline then with just plain water from sink hose because she had too much dirt, sprayed blu blok so now they are purple but both made it 24hrs. I got silver honey ANTIMICROBIAL SPRAY today. I have read feeds on here and seems like everyone has a different take. Attached are the best pics I could take YESTERDAY, and now that they are purple today from blue blok its hard to get a good pic of how bad it is. Actually none of these pics do justice. I won't include purple ones. I am sick to my stomach I love my girls. Here is my plan
I am going to get betadine to clean the wound daily, then spray on the silver honey gel.
The wounds are so big I think I need to suture them up best I can, so I got a curved needle at and thinnest fishing line I could find. I got some baby aspirin to feed them with yogurt for pain
However, I could leave them open without sutures and try to keep them moist, but the areas are large and lots of muscle showing. I think skin is missing, but not sure because they have lots of skin, so could appear larger. If this, should I bandage?

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I know from size of wounds whether I suture or not, I need to gwt them on more than topical antibiotic Either an antibiotic amoxicillin for fish in pill form or an injectable liquid for swines at feed store. The feed store told me people often use these for other animals than what sold for. This is the best I can do.
I live alone in country, so I am doing this by myself.
What do you think of my plan below? Please view the pics and tell me your thoughts and if you have used either of those antibiotics.
Should I put a newborn t-shirt on them so they don't pick at themselves. 1 has been picking her back and q little area has turned from purple to green- about size of a quarter. Any immediate help would be appreciated. I am in town and if I need to buy anything else I need to now.
I have each of them in their own large dog crate, I had them outside last night but bringing into garage today. I have 2 large dogs and 2 cats who live inside, so inside could get chickens susceptible to worse bacteria from either and they don't need additional stress. I I will use heat lamps in garage. I put electrolytes in their water
Spotty, the white one is eating a little and drinking, and pooping a little. Madge the red one will drink if I hold water up. Her neck is tore up, and I think it hurts her to bend it. She will peck at bread a little, but I dont see her swallowing. She has not pooped, but I have been gone, so hoping for improvement when I get home.
Please any critiquing will be appreciated and taken into count.

 

[RosemaryDuck]

The first chickens wounds look survivable. It's just the skin and no meat removed. I would keep flushing it, keep it clean and use antibiotic ointment.

The second chickens wounds look much worse. She likely needs sutures and a drain tube. That wound looks fatal if I'm being honest, but I wouldn't give up on her. The most important thing here is keeping them clean.

Predator bites (dogs, cats, etc) have gram negative bacteria. This can cause infection and sepsis. They'll both likely need internal antibiotics as well. I hope this helps.
I'll tag some others as well.

It does sound like you've got all your bases covered though. I hope they heal quickly!

@sourland
@Eggcessive

 

[Cinnamon Roll]

I’m sorry this happened to your chickens. I hope you can find d permanent solution to keep the dog away from them.

In my opinion those wounds are bad enough that both chickens should probably be euthanized. I don’t think it’s right to put them through a prolonged recovery (or lingering death). I’m sure you feel guilty, as I would in that situation, but keeping them alive while they are suffering is cruel.

The very first thing you should give them is some pain medication.

 

[Bigtom Turkey]

Thi first chicken does not look that bad, and should deff NOT be put down. The second is a little border line for me.

 

[Eggcessive]

I would recommend leaving the wounds open unless a vet could stitch the wounds. You don’t want to sew them up and have the wound abscess, but to heal from the inside out. You may use some disinfectant solution such as chlorhexidene and water initially to clean the wound, and later, plain saline or Vetericyn wound spray may be used to clean. Betadine is fine initially, but I would dilute it. Then after cleaning or spraying the wounds, apply a layer of plain Triple Antibiotic Ointment to the wounds twice a day. Clean towels or puppy pads are good to use for bedding, so that shavings do not get into the wounds.

 

[Lisaew]

I would recommend leaving the wounds open unless a vet could stitch the wounds. You don’t want to sew them up and have the wound abscess, but to heal from the inside out. You may use some disinfectant solution such as chlorhexidene and water initially to clean the wound, and later, plain saline or Vetericyn wound spray may be used to clean. Betadine is fine initially, but I would dilute it. Then after cleaning or spraying the wounds, apply a layer of plain Triple Antibiotic Ointment to the wounds twice a day. Clean towels or puppy pads are good to use for bedding, so that shavings do not get into the wounds.

Thanks so much for responding. I found some old puppy pads in a drawer to put down. Both chickens layed eggs yesterday before I got home. Madge ate hers for protein no doubt and she pooped too. They both looked better. It is crazy, as if they are super chicks! The gal at the feed store convinced me to use Underwood Horse medication, although she had not used on chickens, she swore by it. I researched quickly online that people have successfully used for chickens. So I took back the silver honey and betadine and bought the underwood. You use by applying the liquid over wound and then dust with baking powder- I guess this is the activator. So I go home and do this. And I'm not so sure this was the best thing. Its such a messy situation that I cannot see what is really going on with the wound. They were both exhausted after the treatment, likely do to fact they are over shock and in pain. I put baby aspirin in their electrolyte water. Underwood Directions say not supposed to clean it. Just keep applying the underwood on last application and sprinkle powder over top and leave it. Have you heard of this? I'm confused and stressed and not sure if I should continue this underwood route because I cannot find anything on this site about it. The areas are now stained with the Bluebonnet and the Underwood's dark coloring with powder on top that I cannot see whats happening. I included a pic of it
I also got oxytetracycline 200 and am going to administer 0.5ml IM for 4 days . I could only find info on this antibiotic for respiratory issues in regards to chickens. But its better than nothing.
I put a heat lamp up between them. Honestly I'm afraid to put too close to their open wounds, fearing lamp will dry muscles out or worse bake them. But I understand the need for warmth when their bodies are fighting for life, temp regulation is out of wack.
I am distraught, trying to stay calm and positive but havn't slept with worry. Its just me here doing this alone which is difficult in itself with any chicken. They were more floppy with this 2nd treatment. Thoughts on this strange recommended treatment and the oxtetracycline and heat lamp proximity?

 

[Lisaew]

The first chickens wounds look survivable. It's just the skin and no meat removed. I would keep flushing it, keep it clean and use antibiotic ointment.

The second chickens wounds look much worse. She likely needs sutures and a drain tube. That wound looks fatal if I'm being honest, but I wouldn't give up on her. The most important thing here is keeping them clean.

Predator bites (dogs, cats, etc) have gram negative bacteria. This can cause infection and sepsis. They'll both likely need internal antibiotics as well. I hope this helps.
I'll tag some others as well.

It does sound like you've got all your bases covered though. I hope they heal quickly!

@sourland
Thanks .

Thanks for responding. Both chickens layed eggs yesterday before I got home. Madge ate hers for protein no doubt and she pooped too. So both had their functioning systems working.. good sign. And They both looked better! The owner of the feed store convinced me to use Underwood Horse medication, although she had not used on chickens, she swore by it and that it had healed a calf with a 2 foot wide gash from being hit by a vehicle. I researched quickly online that someone had successfully used for chickens. So I took back the silver honey antibiotic and betadine and bought the underwood. You use by applying the underwood solution over wound and then dust with baking powder- I guess this is the activator. So I went home and did this. And now, I'm not so sure this was the best thing. Its such a messy situation that I cannot see what is really going on with the wound. The girls were both exhausted after the underwood treatment, likely do to fact they are over shock stage and into pain. I put baby aspirin in their electrolyte water. Underwood Directions say not supposed to clean the wound before applying. Just keep applying solution on last application and sprinkle powder over top and leave it. Have you heard of this? I'm confused and stressed and not sure if I should continue this underwood route because I cannot find anything on this site about it. The areas are now stained with the Blue blok from 1st treatment and the Underwood's dark stain with powder on top that I cannot see whats happening. I included a pic of bottle.
I also got oxytetracycline 200 and am going to administer 0.5ml IM for 4 days starting tomorrow, If I can hold them still enough to administer. I could only find info on this antibiotic for respiratory issues in regards to chickens. But its better than nothing.
I put a heat lamp up between them. Honestly I'm afraid to put too close to their open wounds, fearing lamp will dry muscles out or worse bake them. But I understand the need for warmth when their bodies are fighting for life, temp regulation is out of wack.
I am distraught, trying to stay calm and positive but havn't slept with worry. Its just me here doing this alone which is difficult in itself with holding and treating any chicken. They were more flappy with this 2nd treatment, and had a couple squaks in them.
Thoughts on this strange recommended treatment and the oxtetracycline and heat lamp proximity? Also, how often can I give them baby aspirin for pain? Q4h?

 

[Lisaew]

The first chickens wounds look survivable. It's just the skin and no meat removed. I would keep flushing it, keep it clean and use antibiotic ointment.

The second chickens wounds look much worse. She likely needs sutures and a drain tube. That wound looks fatal if I'm being honest, but I wouldn't give up on her. The most important thing here is keeping them clean.

Predator bites (dogs, cats, etc) have gram negative bacteria. This can cause infection and sepsis. They'll both likely need internal antibiotics as well. I hope this helps.
I'll tag some others as well.

It does sound like you've got all your bases covered though. I hope they heal quickly!

@sourland
@Eggcessive

Thanks for responding. Both chickens layed eggs yesterday before I got home. Madge ate hers for protein no doubt and she pooped too. So both had their functioning systems working.. good sign. And They both looked better! The owner of the feed store convinced me to use Underwood Horse medication, although she had not used on chickens, she swore by it and that it had healed a calf with a 2 foot wide gash from being hit by a vehicle. I researched quickly online that someone had successfully used for chickens. So I took back the silver honey antibiotic and betadine and bought the underwood. You use by applying the underwood solution over wound and then dust with baking powder- I guess this is the activator. So I went home and did this. And now, I'm not so sure this was the best thing. Its such a messy situation that I cannot see what is really going on with the wound. The girls were both exhausted after the underwood treatment, likely do to fact they are over shock stage and into pain. I put baby aspirin in their electrolyte water. Underwood Directions say not supposed to clean the wound before applying. Just keep applying solution on last application and sprinkle powder over top and leave it. Have you heard of this? I'm confused and stressed and not sure if I should continue this underwood route because I cannot find anything on this site about it. But it has great reviews on other farm animals including ostriches. The wounded areas are now stained with the Blue blok from 1st treatment and the Underwood's dark stain with baking powder on top that I cannot see whats happening. I included a pic of bottle.
I also got oxytetracycline 200 and am going to administer 0.5ml IM for 4 days starting tomorrow, If I can hold them still enough to administer. I could only find info on this antibiotic for respiratory issues in regards to chickens. But its better than nothing.
I put a heat lamp up between them. Honestly I'm afraid to put too close to their open wounds, fearing lamp will dry muscles out or worse bake them. But I understand the need for warmth when their bodies are fighting for life, temp regulation is out of wack.
I am distraught, trying to stay calm and positive but havn't slept much in 2 days with worry. Its just me here doing this alone which is difficult in itself with holding and treating any chicken. They were more flappy with this 2nd treatment, and had a couple squaks in them.
Thoughts on this strange recommended treatment and the oxtetracycline and heat lamp proximity? Also, how often can I give them baby aspirin for pain? Q4h?

 

[Lisaew]

The first chickens wounds look survivable. It's just the skin and no meat removed. I would keep flushing it, keep it clean and use antibiotic ointment.

The second chickens wounds look much worse. She likely needs sutures and a drain tube. That wound looks fatal if I'm being honest, but I wouldn't give up on her. The most important thing here is keeping them clean.

Predator bites (dogs, cats, etc) have gram negative bacteria. This can cause infection and sepsis. They'll both likely need internal antibiotics as well. I hope this helps.
I'll tag some others as well.

It does sound like you've got all your bases covered though. I hope they heal quickly!

@sourland
@Eggcessive

Thanks for responding. Both chickens layed eggs yesterday before I got home. Madge ate hers for protein no doubt and she pooped too. So both had their functioning systems working.. good sign. And They both looked better! The owner of the feed store convinced me to use Underwood Horse medication, although she had not used on chickens, she swore by it and that it had healed a calf with a 2 foot wide gash from being hit by a vehicle. I researched quickly online that someone had successfully used for chickens. So I took back the silver honey antibiotic and betadine and bought the underwood. You use by applying the underwood solution over wound and then dust with baking powder- I guess this is the activator. So I went home and did this. And now, I'm not so sure this was the best thing. Its such a messy situation that I cannot see what is really going on with the wound. The girls were both exhausted after the underwood treatment, likely do to fact they are over shock stage and into pain. I put baby aspirin in their electrolyte water. Underwood Directions say not supposed to clean the wound before applying. Just keep applying solution on last application and sprinkle powder over top and leave it. Have you heard of this? I'm confused and stressed and not sure if I should continue this underwood route because I cannot find anything on this site about it. The areas are now stained with the Blue blok from 1st treatment and the Underwood's dark stain with powder on top that I cannot see whats happening. I included a pic of bottle.
I also got oxytetracycline 200 and am going to administer 0.5ml IM for 4 days starting tomorrow, If I can hold them still enough to administer. I could only find info on this antibiotic for respiratory issues in regards to chickens. But its better than nothing.
I put a heat lamp up between them. Honestly I'm afraid to put too close to their open wounds, fearing lamp will dry muscles out or worse bake them. But I understand the need for warmth when their bodies are fighting for life, temp regulation is out of wack.
I am distraught, trying to stay calm and positive but havn't slept with worry. Its just me here doing this alone which is difficult in itself with holding and treating any chicken. They were more flappy with this 2nd treatment, and had a couple squaks in them.
Thoughts on this strange recommended treatment and the oxtetracycline and heat lamp proximity? Also, how often can I give them baby aspirin for pain? Q4h?

 

[Lisaew]

I’m sorry this happened to your chickens. I hope you can find d permanent solution to keep the dog away from them.

In my opinion those wounds are bad enough that both chickens should probably be euthanized. I don’t think it’s right to put them through a prolonged recovery (or lingering death). I’m sure you feel guilty, as I would in that situation, but keeping them alive while they are suffering is cruel.

The very first thing you should give them is some pain medication.

Thanks for responding. These were my 2 favorite chickens, they laid eggs yesterday, their body systems are in working order. They ate and drank I have to do my best to give them a fighting chance- I feel horribly guilty, but they are showing signs of thriving. Any signs of deteriorating condition, I will guarantee they don't suffer on their slide downward. I am not sure what signs to look for their pain level, do you know? I am giving baby chewable aspirin.