HELP! Goat got into Chicken Grower/finisher and possibly in labor OR Bloat?

[H Diamond]

Could be genetics, could be from poor udder care by previous owners (letting her stay really full for a long time and weakening the attachments). In my experience, it's usually genetic.

 

[H Diamond]

So here is a pic of my doe Peggy. She produces around 12 pounds a day. See how high and tight she carries her udder?

 

[Stacykins]

What makes a udder not attach good n hang low

Literally, poor attachments, often genetic. Ligaments hold the udder up, tight, and in place. If those ligaments are weak, then the udder sags like a limp balloon.

 

[H Diamond]

Her teats need to be in further, but her udder isn't too bad otherwise. Compare her attachments with this gal: http://www.dairygoatinfo.com/f19/she-milks-nice-makes-lots-milk-but-look-her-udder-attachment-28879/
She has almost zero attachments. Peggy will (or at least should, lol) milk for a lot longer and better than the doe pictures in this link.

 

[farm n louisana]

K thanks I never heard of that before

 

[Icedangel11]

Yeah, Tea DEFINITELY droops, then.

So, does the drooping affect how they milk? will she dry up sooner? I think I'll have to clean them better, for sure.. And her kids have a hard time nursing from her at first, which is why it's going to be easier to pull and bottle feed them. ((BTW, the doeling got her first good suckle today, where she actually attached to the bottle. Her mouth is still slimy, though. will that cause a problem? Should I suck out the slime? Or is it just baby spit? ))

So, will Tea's doelings have her milking abilities? Or is milking ability placed SOLEY on the buck?

 

[farm n louisana]

If a female doe kids n she has a low hanging udder will the doe she has have the same low hanging udder

 

[Silkiehen]

Try some Probiotics. Its also safe for newborn goats and sheep. You can get it at Tractor Supply.

 

[Stacykins]

Ahh, I see.

Hmm.. I'm not sure. I think I'd like to, in the end, get a white buck. Because I've sort've made it a rule that if the kid has any white markings or 'special' things it's safe because it'll sell well as someone's pet. But if it's a solid or plain color it'll get butchered. I just want to build up my current pool of goats so that I have enough milk, cheese, lotion and soap for myself and possibly some of the neighbors. The buckling I KNOW will sell extremely well as a buck. Because I've already had offers. I'm just not sure what's a fair price. Genetically, there are high chances he's Homozygous for blue eyes, white markings, and moonspots. As his sire is homozygous for them. Meaning he will always have super cute spotty blue eyed babies. Which are all the rage here.

I think, with that buckling, if he throws a sloppy udder but high milking abilities he's still going to be desirable for people like me who have no interest in showing. I think I will breed him to a doe with new blood and get some doelings from that cross. Perhaps doelings with a better udder attachment. Then, perhaps, the buckling from that cross have a chance at throwing a good udder and high milking abilities? If the dam has a good udder?

Though, I do feel studding Tea to a white buck will be my 'end goal'. Half the babies will be white, half will be super colorful. XD Which means food and money!

Color should be secondary to milking ability. Nigerians often have flashy kids no matter the pairing! Look for a buck whose dam had high and tight attachments. If he happens to be white or have white markings...great! If not, your doe should still produce some nice, blue eyed, and moonspotted kids for you.

As a rule...Nigerians have a very poor carcass when it comes to butcher. They are so small, there just isn't much there to actually put in the freezer. If you want a goat for the freezer, sell any excess males as bucks or pet wethers, and use the cash to buy a boer wether to raise up for butchering. That way, you get more than a few lbs of ground meat and some wimpy roasts for your effort.

As for what to ask for him, what is going rate in your area? That is your base on what to ask for him. And if people are interested in him, and considering he just hit the ground yesterday, you don't have to make a call on what to price him at right now. Give it some time to research prices and then get back to interested parties with the price you feel is fair. Some folks will say thanks but no thanks, but those who truly want him will buy him. Beware of lowball offers and stick to your guns. I recently had someone offer me $100 on my registered Angora goat doe. ALWAYS GET A DEPOSIT. $50 is the usual going rate for a deposit, and they are nonrefundable in the event the buyer changes their mind and backs out of the sale. They should only be refundable if he becomes unsalable, like if he gets sick, injured, or dies.

Some people might care less about the dam's udder. The blue eyes and moonspots might factor more into his desirability than her udder attachments. Or that because her udder is capacious, easy to milk, just poorly attached (which can be corrected), it isn't a big deal.

You can't call him homozygous until you actually know. You can speculate, but until he shows a pattern of 100% blue eyed kids, even when bred to brown eyed dose, it is impossible to say he is.

 

[Stacykins]

If a female doe kids n she has a low hanging udder will the doe she has have the same low hanging udder

Yes...it is passed on genetically. Unless the buck's dam had well attached udders, he might improve the dam's poorly attached udders in his daughters.