HELP!!!!! Malformed chick. What should I do?????

[MamaMarcy]

OP...I'm so sorry for your loss. I had to cull my first a few months ago, my first hatched turkey. It was very obviously suffering, and the only kind thing to do was release it back to God.

I was so hoping it'd get better, but after a few hours it was obviously in severe pain and not likely to ever heal (started as a tiny bit of unabsorbed yolk that turned into his intestines falling out). I was a complete mess. I didn't have time to research methods, but recalled hearing once that a plastic bag held up to car exhaust was painless & quick...in trying it I made things WORSE (I do NOT recommend this method). It was so horrible that without thinking more than about 5 seconds, I ran with him still in the plastic sandwich bag to the corner of the house, in the rain, and used a shovel. I knew that'd be instant. Instant for him, but hours of crying for me. Still, I know I did the right thing in releasing him of his pain, and I hope you know you also did the right thing.

I haven't had to cull again but know the day will come. I have a new hatchling right now who looks like she won't make it (french black copper maran). I suspect she'll pass peacefull overnight, though. I would cull her if I felt for a second she were suffering and didn't stand a chance. Right now she seems peceful in the incubator inside a teacup.

I want to thank whoever posted the baking soda/vinegar method. I'm sure the day will come where I try it (sadly). I also could not cut the head off.

 

[CoopedChik]

I rest my case.

How pathetic that you feel the need to rub salt in the wound of a woman who is undeserving.

Nothing like exercising those RIGHTS huh? Feel good?? Proud of yourself?? Bet it's lonely on top of that soapbox, seeing's how there's only room for one.

Sheesh!

Oh and your ignorance is evident by the fact that you commented BEFORE reading the whole thread. And instead of having the sack to admit you were out of line you just justified it at the expense of a broken hearted woman.

No I just said it was my opinion. Your the one who blew it out of portion. I never said anything cruel to her just didn't agree with the choice and wished she had done differnetly but she didn't and I'm not going to change my mind on my opinion just because she feels bad, sorry she does, at least the chicks at rest I still don't agree with the choice and I'm not going to change my mind because some one is back sassing me for it. And this rests my case. I don't like people. You can't let an opinion be an opinion you have to go off on someone for it. Fine do so. I'll play your little game I'm used to it. your just angry I don't agree with you.

 

[Fly Be Free]

Yeah, thoughtful, respectful. I'm wondering... is it that you don't like people or that people don't like you. And if your so against people then what the heck ya doing out here??

Never mind u did, should have given them a chance.

 

[CoopedChik]

Yeah, thoughtful, respectful. I'm wondering... is it that you don't like people or that people don't like you. And if your so against people then what the heck ya doing out here??

Never said I was thought full and respectful, still remains just an opinion. a really short opinion.
And I dunno plenty of people want to be my friends and bother me I just don't like them. I'm on here because BYC helps me with some of my bird care. Also your argueing points that have nothing to do with what I'm saying, your just wanting me to agree with you still and I'm not going to.

It remains I just voiced my opinion and you didn't like it so you decided to go off on it.
If she is so upset by my post I'm sorry she can't respect some one else's opinion I'm also sorry she had such a bad hatch. Also if you like you can report this but I'm not doing anything wrong. Just voiced... (wait for it) an OPINION!

 

[MamaMarcy]

Try to ignore the offensive user, for the sake of the OP. Reports have already been sent to moderation.

 

[kari_dawn]

I want to thank whoever posted the baking soda/vinegar method. I'm sure the day will come where I try it (sadly). I also could not cut the head off.

I too want to thank you for the baking soda method...I tried to create a thread on euthanasia, and got a lot of heckling from overly opinionated members (which seem to be rampant on this forum at times) about how silly it was to even create such a thread, and just cutting off it's head and ending it...the point of my thread was to provide people with less brutal, humane alternatives. My suggestion was a rubermaid, dry ice in one end in a bowl, a heating pad at the other, and the chick inside. Basically the same concept as the baking soda method. My one mistake was thinking it was an approved euthanasia method, which it is not (nor is the baking soda method), but for keepers like ourselves, we have to provide the majority of the medical care for our birds, and need to find effective methods that we can do at home.


To the OP, I too am of the mind of giving everything the benifit of the doubt, but in this situation, I probably would have made the same decission. That amount of visual malformation more than likely carried over into the internal workings of the little one, and that would have been a LOT to overcome. Im sorry you had to do it though.

I think you made the right choice.

 

[CoopedChik]

still remains I said nothing wrong I said just that I wish she hadn't done it. I have a right to say that. So everyone who is on my back for it. I'm sorry you can't respect anyone's opinion if it's not your own. Is why I don't like people. Your to wrapped up in having to be right that someone else's views are so wrong. Why do you think wars get started because one country gets angry at another for not having the same culture. So yeah there you go I don't like what she did that's all. OH NO I'm so horrible for it. If I'm going to be crusified for something let it be for my wrongs not for my thoughts. I am done now if I'm in trouble for this it just adds on to my disbelief in the human race.

 

[kari_dawn]

I saw only one poster upset with you, not quite the picture of pitch forks and flames you paint. Everyone gets touchy when the subject of life and death comes up. I think both sides got a little too hot about it. No one is saying you are not entitled to an oppinion, but on the same token, it does not necissarily have to be expressed at the expense of another's feelings. I also understand that your posts were not made until after the baby had been taken care of. Please, let's not turn this into a he said she said, and just be supportive of the OP. This decission was theirs alone. All we can do is support them in their decissions and give them the tools they need to make them.

There are a lot of very strong personalities here on BYC, but that is part of what makes this forum such a great community, and a great resource for all of us.

 

[CoopedChik]

I saw only one poster upset with you, not quite the picture of pitch forks and flames you paint. Everyone gets touchy when the subject of life and death comes up. I think both sides got a little too hot about it. No one is saying you are not entitled to an oppinion, but on the same token, it does not necissarily have to be expressed at the expense of another's feelings. I also understand that your posts were not made until after the baby had been taken care of. Please, let's not turn this into a he said she said, and just be supportive of the OP. This decission was theirs alone. All we can do is support them in their decissions and give them the tools they need to make them.

There are a lot of very strong personalities here on BYC, but that is part of what makes this forum such a great community, and a great resource for all of us.

I am just angry for the threat of being reported when I never said anything mean to the OP and they accused me of it. I had not seen she had already culled the chick until it was too late and I was attacked for it, only thing that upset me. she did what she did that's fine. I even sent her a message explaining I have no malice towards and that it just got blow out of portion just because of a small statement. So really only thing that angered me was the later threat from them over nothing.

 

[kstaven]

Frankly, I think the OP made the right decision.

One of the harder lessons I've learned in my life is that death is not the worst possible outcome. A life of pain and suffering especially for an animal that lack the intelligence to understand WHY it's hurting is not the best thing.

Culling a chick is not a decision that's made lightly, and since I've done I can guarantee it wasn't done without a lot of thought and tears.

As a message to all who participated in this thread. No points are issued this time but demeaning another for HUMANE actions necessary to end suffering will not be tolerated on this forum.

Thank you to those who participated in a respectful fashion. In the future PLEASE use the RED FLAG button when posts become offensive.