Help me design a scientific method to "test" chicks for tameness

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I just moved to the country and finally can have a larger number of chickens. I know from past experience a couple breeds I'm interested in getting into seriously breeding and I am seeking out quality stock in those breeds. I also know quite a few breeds that I'm not big fans of and have no interest in breeding.

However, there are still a lot of breeds that interest me that I've never owned, so this spring I have placed orders form most major hatcheries getting a several of every breed I'm interested in (sexed females on any that I can). For me, temperament is the number one reason I enjoy owning chickens, so that is my first priority; functionality and aesthetics of the breed being second. I don't intend to use these as future breeding stock per say, but I do intend to use them to perhaps create cross breeds for my own enjoyment. They will also be egg layers and a gage to see which breeds on my bucket list I actually like owning and would be interested in breeding. So I will be selling probably 3/4 of the chicks I ordered after I've selected the tamest ones of each breed (or I'll sell all of a specific breed if they aren't to my liking). Around here there are no local feed stores that sell chicks so I've always found a high demand for smaller numbers of sexed female chicks, and should have an easy time selling extras.

So, since I will be having a couple hundred chicks come through my doors in the next few months I need to design a plan to gauge "tameness"... IME really tame chicks are tame from the very beginning, seeking out human attention. I have had chicks that started out wild tame down eventually, but I don't think I've ever had a chick start off super tame and then later turn wild. So I will be making my initial culling (to sell, not kill) within the first week or two. I do want to get them used to being handled to some degree, but with having larger numbers I also won't be able to handle them constantly, and moreover, I don't want to because I want to see which chicks have the genetic predisposition the be tame. I think temperament in chickens is highly heritable. I will try to hold each chick once or twice a day (all chicks equally) for X? number of days. After that, I want to do some sort of experiment to gauge the tameness of each chick. I would write it down on the chart to keep track and probably would have to be something I could repeat 2-4? times in order to see patterns of behavior and not get false positives or negatives. I think I would like to look at two factors, general friendliness (e.g. do they come up seeking attention) and also cuddliness (e.g. when held do they settle down and enjoy it or struggle to escape.)

So if you were to design a test for such an experiment, how would you "test" friendliness and cuddliness? I have a couple ideas but I'd love to hear some others. Also what age would you "test"? It may also be a two, three, four-tiered test, where they get tested for temperament at, say, 1.5 weeks, and then again at 1 month, etc. until I fell like I have kept only the very tamest hens.

Thanks! Let me know your thoughts or ideas!
 
Color me a skeptic. While I admire your ambition, I think you may be trying to apply the scientific method to a faulty premise - that poultry temperament can be reduced to an empirical conclusion when it's impossible to apply consistent reliable controls.

You do realize, don't you, that the temperament of chickens, while being partly genetic, is also dependent on how the human handler behaves?

For example, I don't see how you can measure behavior of chicks when much of their reaction to you involves how you handle them and behave with them. Chicks handled in a way that they are likely to trust you more or less will vary according to individual human behavior.

Someone who is insecure or impulsive may frighten the chicks, resulting in skittish chicks, while the same chicks will respond much more calmly to someone that understands chicks' predator response and takes time and care when approaching the chicks.

Behavior is subjective enough where I don't believe you can have empirical conclusions unless you can institute rigid controls on your own behavior for that two-week period of study. And that's not even taking into account environmental factors exerting influence on the chicks' behavior that will be difficult to control for.
 
It's true that a person accustomed to animals gets better behavior from them. And then there are the true whisperers. But it's also true genetics play a large role in temperment.

I've only been around poultry for nine or 10 years now but have had my share of both hatchery stock and breeder stock. I'm of the inclination it's not that important with pullets but breeder stock cockerels are night and day different in temperment than hatchery stock. Sure you can get lucky with hatchery boys or work them to have good behavior but the sheer numbers of cockerels and cockbirds I've had through breeder stock and not a bad one is hard to dispute. I don't do any special regiment with them either, they are simply docile and well mannered. Never a a fear to do chores with back turned or under them.
 
As it’s been said in much more descriptive scenarios it depends on the person the bird and the environment and TIME. You mentioned a few 100 or so chicks...hum. And I’m not sure of the quality time you could give in order to judge how tame the chick is. I’ve never had a tame chicken go wild. What I have experienced is from day old chicks is that there are some more tolerant and comfortable with handling. The one who aren’t...aren’t. That does not mean they did not grow up accepting that I would handle them and eventually enjoy petting.
But to answer your original question...to test for friendliness...you’d have to have very strict controls in your interactions. To make it a true TEST. But I just gotta tell you...it all depends on the bird each is a individual. Good luck
 
Be sure to look your best: :)

Chickens Prefer Attractive People
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/01/animals-chickens-evolution-eggs-food/

"....[chickens] can recognize and discern people based on their faces. And they apparently like beautiful humans.

A 2002 paper found that chickens have the same preference for certain human faces as do humans, "keying in on things like symmetry" in features—one of the subconscious measures of attractiveness, Blatchford says.

In the study, the scientists trained four hens to react to photographs of an average female face but not an average male face, and vice versa for two cocks.

Then, the team showed these trained birds pictures of faces with exaggeratedly masculine and feminine traits.

The chickens pecked more at screens showing symmetrical faces—revealing the same preferences as the 14 people who had done the same experiment.

The study is limited in that it only tested a small number of chickens and humans. But the results may suggest the mutual admiration for symmetry is rooted in the nervous system, and not necessarily due to cultural influences.

Wow. What could be more humiliating than a chicken who sees you and swipes left?"
 
Be sure to look your best: :)

Chickens Prefer Attractive People
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/01/animals-chickens-evolution-eggs-food/

"....[chickens] can recognize and discern people based on their faces. And they apparently like beautiful humans.

A 2002 paper found that chickens have the same preference for certain human faces as do humans, "keying in on things like symmetry" in features—one of the subconscious measures of attractiveness, Blatchford says.

In the study, the scientists trained four hens to react to photographs of an average female face but not an average male face, and vice versa for two cocks.

Then, the team showed these trained birds pictures of faces with exaggeratedly masculine and feminine traits.

The chickens pecked more at screens showing symmetrical faces—revealing the same preferences as the 14 people who had done the same experiment.

The study is limited in that it only tested a small number of chickens and humans. But the results may suggest the mutual admiration for symmetry is rooted in the nervous system, and not necessarily due to cultural influences.

Wow. What could be more humiliating than a chicken who sees you and swipes left?"
:lau....so all us ugly people are doomed to a life without chicken love!!:hit
Ya could of broken the news to us over a scoop of ice cream or sumfin’ Geezzz :barnie
 
Be sure to look your best: :)

Chickens Prefer Attractive People
https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2018/01/animals-chickens-evolution-eggs-food/

"....[chickens] can recognize and discern people based on their faces. And they apparently like beautiful humans.

A 2002 paper found that chickens have the same preference for certain human faces as do humans, "keying in on things like symmetry" in features—one of the subconscious measures of attractiveness, Blatchford says.

In the study, the scientists trained four hens to react to photographs of an average female face but not an average male face, and vice versa for two cocks.

Then, the team showed these trained birds pictures of faces with exaggeratedly masculine and feminine traits.

The chickens pecked more at screens showing symmetrical faces—revealing the same preferences as the 14 people who had done the same experiment.

The study is limited in that it only tested a small number of chickens and humans. But the results may suggest the mutual admiration for symmetry is rooted in the nervous system, and not necessarily due to cultural influences.

Wow. What could be more humiliating than a chicken who sees you and swipes left?"
@Wyorp Rock would probably agree with this after she found out at least one of her chickens strongly disapproved of her coming out to the run in hair curlers. https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/byc-member-interview-wyorp-rock.1146592/
 

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