Help my cickens feet!!

[Ella_michele08]

My rir hen I thought had bumblefoot and I had her feet left for four days and when I came back her bad foot got bad swollen!! And it's been like this for a week! So I cut alittle on the bulge between her one toe but nothing came and I stopped bc she was breathing heavy and either she was tired or about to pass out so I stopped and put the iodine solution blukote, and triple antibiotic and re wrapped it, but I did all this after I re soaked her feet in Epsom salt water.
She was moving alot when I was trying to wrap her feet. What do I do?? In a couple days or maybe soon I'll try to post a picture. It's hard on my phone

 

[Eggcessive]

Can you post a picture of the bumble foot? Soaking the feet in warm Epsom salts water, or a disinfectant such as chlorhexidene or Betadine may help to soften the scab, so that any solid pus may be squeezed out. Here is a good article about bumble foot:
https://the-chicken-chick.com/bumblefoot-causes-treatment-warning/

 

[Rose Quartz]

It sounds like you didnt see a scab?

I spent over an hour tonight with a hen on my lap with her one foot sitting in warm Epsom salt walter and the scab was still barely soft enough to deal with. It takes longer than 10 minutes.

All i did was take the scab off and put polysporin directly onto it with a piece of bandage and vet wrap around her foot to keep it in place.

That's what i did for her other bumble she had last year on the bottom of her foot and it went away. This one was between her toes and harder to get at.

 

[Ella_michele08]

Can you post a picture of the bumble foot? Soaking the feet in warm Epsom salts water, or a disinfectant such as chlorhexidene or Betadine may help to soften the scab, so that any solid pus may be squeezed out. Here is a good article about bumble foot:
https://the-chicken-chick.com/bumblefoot-causes-treatment-warning/

Rn it won't allow me to post a picture . But there is no scab and I have been soaking it in Epsom salt and applying triple antibiotic and iodine solution

 

[Rose Quartz]

Maybe this will help, idk maybe it's that you have a new acct. But tap on the little rectangle that looks like a picture of a mountain and sun. At the top of your text box. Not the one with the film clip behind it.

Tap on drop image here. And a pop up with your recent photos should show. Drag on that until you find your picture and tap on it. Which will load it into your text box.

Once it's in full color and not greyed out it should be loaded. Then you can click on post reply.

 

[Ella_michele08]

It sounds like you didnt see a scab?

I spent over an hour tonight with a hen on my lap with her one foot sitting in warm Epsom salt walter and the scab was still barely soft enough to deal with. It takes longer than 10 minutes.

All i did was take the scab off and put polysporin directly onto it with a piece of bandage and vet wrap around her foot to keep it in place.

That's what i did for her other bumble she had last year on the bottom of her foot and it went away. This one was between her toes and harder to get at.

Yes I didn't see a scab.
The first two pictures is her bad foot, and the second two is her other foot. And the blue is blukote

 

[coach723]

When you lanced the swelling, did you see any white or cream or pale yellow stuff inside? Chicken pus is firm, rather than liquid, and can take some manipulation to get it loose and removed. I'm not a fan of Blu-kote as it makes it very hard to see the color of tissue to see what's going on. I've circled the area's that I think are of concern in pictures below, with notes. I would continue daily soaks until you can get all the blu-kote off so things look more normally colored, that will make it easier to see. It will also help soften things that may need to be removed. An easier way to soak is to get a rubbermaid type container with a lid, a shallow one that they can stand in, cut a hole in the lid that the chicken fits through, fill with your epsom salt solution and put her in with feet in the solution, the lid with the hole will help keep her stationary. Hope that makes sense. When you are working on her feet, wrap her in a towel like a burrito, with her feet sticking out, and lay her on her back, give her a few seconds to calm. They usually are calmer and hold more still that way. I will often place a light weight cloth over their head also, also helps calm them since they can't see what is going on. Pictures in the order you posted them originally:

For this one, area circled, I can't tell if that is healthy tissue or not, due to the color, but appears swollen. I would use a q tip or cotton swab to clean out all those nooks and crevices, sometimes stuff gets stuck and built up in there. Possibly necrotic, but the color makes it too hard to tell.

This is where you lanced? The arrow is pointing to what is either scab, pus, or necrotic and that needs to be removed and cleaned out. Again, the color stain makes things harder to see. If any pus remains it will keep regenerating. I also use a larger oral syringe to help flush things out while cleaning, with a roll of paper towels on hand. Once you get it all out, pack the hole with plain triple antibiotic ointment and wrap it up to keep it clean and dry. You will need to change the bandage and check it daily until you know it's healing. You may have to repeat cleaning. If it doesn't start to heal or keeps regenerating, then sugardine can work well as treatment, I will put a link at the end of this post with more info on that.

I circled what appears to be early bumblefoot on the third picture below. It doesn't appear swollen, and may be very superficial. For that one I would try to clean and treat topically, see if it starts to clear up. Sometimes those shallow ones can be slow to resolve. I would clean it up, apply the antibiotic ointment daily, and wrap to keep it clean and dry.

Where I circled below, again I would clean out the creases and pockets with a q tip or cotton swab, making sure there is no gunk in there.

Here is info on sugardine use, I've had good results with it for some really stubborn bumblefoot, but it isn't necessarily quick. Bumblefoot can be a slow process that requires perseverence.
Post #8 in this thread: https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/bumblefoot-not-healing.1443809/

 

[Ella_michele08]

When you lanced the swelling, did you see any white or cream or pale yellow stuff inside? Chicken pus is firm, rather than liquid, and can take some manipulation to get it loose and removed. I'm not a fan of Blu-kote as it makes it very hard to see the color of tissue to see what's going on. I've circled the area's that I think are of concern in pictures below, with notes. I would continue daily soaks until you can get all the blu-kote off so things look more normally colored, that will make it easier to see. It will also help soften things that may need to be removed. An easier way to soak is to get a rubbermaid type container with a lid, a shallow one that they can stand in, cut a hole in the lid that the chicken fits through, fill with your epsom salt solution and put her in with feet in the solution, the lid with the hole will help keep her stationary. Hope that makes sense. When you are working on her feet, wrap her in a towel like a burrito, with her feet sticking out, and lay her on her back, give her a few seconds to calm. They usually are calmer and hold more still that way. I will often place a light weight cloth over their head also, also helps calm them since they can't see what is going on. Pictures in the order you posted them originally:

For this one, area circled, I can't tell if that is healthy tissue or not, due to the color, but appears swollen. I would use a q tip or cotton swab to clean out all those nooks and crevices, sometimes stuff gets stuck and built up in there. Possibly necrotic, but the color makes it too hard to tell.
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This is where you lanced? The arrow is pointing to what is either scab, pus, or necrotic and that needs to be removed and cleaned out. Again, the color stain makes things harder to see. If any pus remains it will keep regenerating. I also use a larger oral syringe to help flush things out while cleaning, with a roll of paper towels on hand. Once you get it all out, pack the hole with plain triple antibiotic ointment and wrap it up to keep it clean and dry. You will need to change the bandage and check it daily until you know it's healing. You may have to repeat cleaning. If it doesn't start to heal or keeps regenerating, then sugardine can work well as treatment, I will put a link at the end of this post with more info on that.
View attachment 3852212
I circled what appears to be early bumblefoot on the third picture below. It doesn't appear swollen, and may be very superficial. For that one I would try to clean and treat topically, see if it starts to clear up. Sometimes those shallow ones can be slow to resolve. I would clean it up, apply the antibiotic ointment daily, and wrap to keep it clean and dry.
View attachment 3852213
Where I circled below, again I would clean out the creases and pockets with a q tip or cotton swab, making sure there is no gunk in there.
View attachment 3852214
Here is info on sugardine use, I've had good results with it for some really stubborn bumblefoot, but it isn't necessarily quick. Bumblefoot can be a slow process that requires perseverence.
Post #8 in this thread: https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/bumblefoot-not-healing.1443

well on the foot with the visible scab I think I got. Tiny bit of cheese like stuff out. But the other one was just swollen with NO scab. And that spot between the toe is like dead skin peeling off.
So the second picture I already looked inside of. Hoping it goes away.
And I have looked inside of the cracks of there toes but didn't see too much.
But when I get inside I always message and try to see of anything comes but nothing did on the bad foot and she looked like she was about to pass out