Help on this pigeon breed?

[terwelppoultry]

I think they are strassers, but I haven't seen a strasser that had these colors. Any pigeon experts out there?

 

[Whittni]

Maybe they were crossed with something a few generations back and the breeder got a new color?

 

[ramirezframing]

dont know about yours, but you can ask on the pigeon thread on here