Well, I was trying to help. No need to get angry or dismissive because I didnt tell you what you wanted to hear. Why would you treat with no diagnosis? You would be wasting your time and your money. I told you the truth. Again, I say, antibiotics will not help if you are dealing with a virus, and if you've already dosed them and they are still sick, that is probably the reason. Supportive care is what you do for a bird with a virus and you wait for their immune system to deal with it, if it can. If you do throw more and more antibiotics at a viral infection, all you do is create antibiotic resistance and when you really need them again for a bacterial infection, they may not work. If Duramycin didn't resolve the symptoms, it is most likely viral in nature.