HELP! Urgent info on potential disease needed - suspect Infectious Bronchitis

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I've never seen anything like this:




This was laid by one of our ducks yesterday. The coin is for scale (roughly the same size as a dime). The shell is very hard.

We have been keeping ducks for just over a year. We started with 11. When egg sales looked promising we decided to increase the flock. No POL were available locally and we found an advert in the local classifieds (like Craig's List, I imagine) for some very cheap adult ducks (cue alarm bells). We visited the guy who was selling them and he was clearly passionate about all kinds of poultry and simply had too many. He explained that the ducks on sale were getting old now, probably only had another season of egg laying in them. This was fine for our purposes, we just wanted to bridge the gap while we hatched some of our own and they grew to POL. After that they would be duck soup.

We purchased 5 ducks and introduced them to our flock. Instantly all egg production dropped, including amongst chickens who live with the ducks. We put this down to the fact that we had unsettled the flock by the sudden increase and it would settle down again. Egg production didn't increase all summer and the ducks are now in moult.

We did end up eating a couple of the newer ducks (they weren't laying anyway and it was a friend's birthday). I chose one which had a much lower bottom than the rest and a more distinct waddle - it appeared (to my untrained eye) to be a bit older than the others. When I was butchering it, the duck's oviduct was completely full of dark water and there were several nasty, grey-looking, shrivelled ova. I did find some information relating to ducks' retention of water but I can't find it now. In any case, it seemed like just one duck was affected and the duck in question was now dead - no further action needed.

But this egg that got laid yesterday has renewed my concern. I realise the water retention and this new, strange egg are probably different problems, however it has raised my concern over the health of the flock. I have done some quick reading up on Infectious Bronchitis and I've been appalled by what I've found. My urgent questions are these:

1 - does this look/sound like IB to you? (Would appreciate it if you could kindly qualify your opinion with any research/evidence you may have, yours or otherwise) If not, what else would you suspect?
2 - can this pass from ducks to chickens? (Our chickens and ducks live together)
3 - can it be carried by the male ducks?
4 - I have read that, once infected, a bird is a carrier for life. Does this mean all future hatchings will probably get infected? Is the only permanent solution to cull the entire flock?

Many thanks for any and all advice.
 
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I've never seen anything like this:




This was laid by one of our ducks yesterday. The coin is for scale (roughly the same size as a dime). The shell is very hard.

We have been keeping ducks for just over a year. We started with 11. When egg sales looked promising we decided to increase the flock. No POL were available locally and we found an advert in the local classifieds (like Craig's List, I imagine) for some very cheap adult ducks (cue alarm bells). We visited the guy who was selling them and he was clearly passionate about all kinds of poultry and simply had too many. He explained that the ducks on sale were getting old now, probably only had another season of egg laying in them. This was fine for our purposes, we just wanted to bridge the gap while we hatched some of our own and they grew to POL. After that they would be duck soup.

We purchased 5 ducks and introduced them to our flock. Instantly all egg production dropped, including amongst chickens who live with the ducks. We put this down to the fact that we had unsettled the flock by the sudden increase and it would settle down again. Egg production didn't increase all summer and the ducks are now in moult.

We did end up eating a couple of the newer ducks (they weren't laying anyway and it was a friend's birthday). I chose one which had a much lower bottom than the rest and a more distinct waddle - it appeared (to my untrained eye) to be a bit older than the others. When I was butchering it, the duck's oviduct was completely full of dark water and there were several nasty, grey-looking, shrivelled ova. I did find some information relating to ducks' retention of water but I can't find it now. In any case, it seemed like just one duck was affected and the duck in question was now dead - no further action needed.

But this egg that got laid yesterday has renewed my concern. I realise the water retention and this new, strange egg are probably different problems, however it has raised my concern over the health of the flock. I have done some quick reading up on Infectious Bronchitis and I've been appalled by what I've found. My urgent questions are these:

1 - does this look/sound like IB to you? (1st hand experience only, please) If not, what else would you suspect?
2 - can this pass from ducks to chickens? (Our chickens and ducks live together)
3 - can it be carried by the male ducks?
4 - I have read that, once infected, a bird is a carrier for life. Does this mean all future hatchings will probably get infected? Is the only permanent solution to cull the entire flock?

Many thanks for any and all advice.
Peedrr, first off, welcome to BYC!!!

I saw your post hours ago and didn't respond. Your post has had a good number of views, but I just noticed it still has no responses. Just as a friendly suggestion, you might want to remove the requirement that only people with first-hand experience respond. It's possible that people are respecting your wishes and have some knowledge of the things you're asking about but have never personally had it happen to their own ducks.

I cannot respond to your post other than this response for reasons I won't go into, but there are many people here who might have ideas.
 
Hi
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I am wondering how oviduct problems led you to wonder if this is infectious bronchitis.
 
Sounds like these ducks have a bacteria or virus in them that is infecting themselves and the others. It is causing them to be inflamed and full of mucus inside.

That egg you show is not even a real egg. It is a mixture of mucus and other material called a lash egg.

Read this:

http://www.the-chicken-chick.com/2014/12/salpingitis-lash-eggs-in-backyard.html
If the egg shown has a shell I don't think it's a lash egg. It does look quite small, so I suspect it has no yolk in it.

-Kathy
 
Thanks for that - since I have not had to deal with this, I did not know that there could be this connection between the respiratory system and oviduct.


You're welcome... I haven't seen it in my flock either, but have read a lot about it.

-Kathy
 

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