Help! Very inpatient chicken owner

[WalkingOnSunshine]

Yes, my assertion that chickens do lay through winter without lights, IS supported by facts, and I didn't say "kelp and other supplements" --- I said I use kelp, and that's what's made the difference with mine. I'm far from the only one who keeps them laying according to this method. I suggest you test it yourself, try to prove me wrong.

Many other people use supplementation that includes kelp or other seaweeds, but the facts of the effects of nutrition, especially a complete spectrum of it, are well-researched and studied. Other people who used more expensive supplements than plain dried kelp, though, often had their poultry stop laying in winter, whereas mine never did. So kelp itself is of greater value than a random assembly of differently sourced vitamins and minerals.
You're welcome (and able) to educate yourself. Happy hunting.

You've made unsupported claims about kelp a few times now, so your personal opinion on this is clear; I don't bother trying to persuade those who are biased against something anymore.

If you're open minded, your research will be of assistance to you, but it's rather clear that you have already made your mind up about this so I won't waste my time on your behalf. I've found people can deny all the peer-reviewed studies brought before them if they've already chosen the facts they prefer, and you can find studies for and against everything. When I was younger and more naive I spent ages bringing all the links people asked for. Now I know most people who pre-state their dismissal of a concept without proof, will not accept any proofs brought. It's almost a joke, to make someone waste their time fetching links they won't even check. I'm not saying you're like this, as I don't know you; I'm merely stating my stance on the "get links" runaround.

I found most of my info in books, and many of them have ebook versions available, so if indeed you "would like to learn more" then I suggest you start researching the effects of nutrition. Most of the info is in that field. Human-oriented research on kelp is more common to find. You'd probably also need to research organic or more natural methods of poultry keeping, as you will find more info there. As someone who uses lighting though I'd guess you're not interested in learning about such things. Chances are you'd already know this stuff if you were. Who knows though, maybe I'm wrong about your stated desire to learn.

Either way, best wishes.

I'm so sorry for whatever has made you so bitter. I hope your day gets better.

 

[chooks4life]

Lol, thanks WalkingOnSunshine. I'm not actually bitter, just very, very wary of the old "give me links" game.

I know a lot of people are being genuine when they ask for links but I have spent too much time of life already in finding links that were mostly ignored, so years ago I decided I'm not going to bother with that anymore. I still give people basic links to some things but not on demand, and not when they are obviously not an utter noob that can't be expected to find it themselves.

If you really want to know about kelp, you can find the info, or try it yourself; otherwise, if you're happy with your status quo using lighting rather than kelp, that is of course fine, each to their own and best wishes with that.

I hope your day gets better too. Right now it's night time here and I'm going to bed.

 

[WalkingOnSunshine]

Actually, I'm a link tyrant--give me the PubMed, or go home!

I am open minded about everything except internet heresay.

 

[chooks4life]

Actually, I'm a link tyrant--give me the PubMed, or go home!

I am open minded about everything except internet heresay.

Me too, actually, but generally I do my own research. Lately though I've considered building up a collection of links for sites like this, since I still supply them to family and friends, and I do frequent scientific, medical and agricultural sites much more than I frequent this site.

Sometime in future I think I may be publishing a list of links in support of my claims and statements. Don't hold your breath, though, I'm thinking I may not be on this site much or at all in the near future as I've got a LOT of work to do, lol... (Running my own business). But I'm sure the info will help people who won't look it up themselves, or aren't good at finding stuff, or just dismiss anything out of hand if a statement isn't link-supported... There's enough of those around, lol.

Best wishes.