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Help with coturnix chick colours! (updated pictures in comments)

These two absolute cutie oddballs. I thought the top one was a silver until he dried off. Now I have no idea. Bottom one is gorgeous but unsure of colouration. I think it looks to my eye to have white crescents and bib possibly which makes me think he is out of my "rosetta" male with the same markings.
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Some type of silver? Maybe? I have no idea. They almost look like pharoah but dilute?View attachment 2256775
Pharoah. There’s a lot of variation from bird to bird, I had very different hues of pharaoh chicks, and their differences became less apparent as they grew, there were always some a bit dark and light, but not how it was when they were chicks.
 

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