Help with sexing & type

[Kev]

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Kat included great pics and commentary. Yours are on the darker side, but I recognize it only out of experience.. it's the greyish tint on body plus some of the sugar frosted look plus in the 4th pic from top, that one is showing the white tipping classic of white eyed.. plus he is really showing the grey tint and strong frosted look on his wings and "real" tail.

When they are adult and outdoors, the hens will lighten out to a silvery-grey color like Kat's displaying hen. The difference is quite obvious on adult hens exposed to the sun. IB hens stay a "mud-brown" color.

Often, people say white eyeds have the random white tipping on feathers plus white on wings and chin.. however many of them don't have any of either. The grey color with sugar frosted tint is much more reliable..

p.s. every white eyed with white on flights/chin I bought proved to be split white.. so one time I bred white eyed x white eyed and got several white eyeds with zero white on flights and chin.. so personally I am skeptical of white flights/chin being a white eyed feature.. even though this is VERY common.

 

[deerman]

Kev, yes my spalding peach white eyes peachicks show the frosting. My older peach w.e. hen i can see. Guess just hoping to know for sure, in case someone want to buy some.

Going to try adding w.e. to my charcoal line, bet they will be hard to see the frosted feathers.

Have 4 charcoal breeding age peacock next spring, plan on putting one with silverpied blackshoulder hens. So hope to get some charcoal w.e. Odds say i should.

 

[peachick]

ahhhh, so many birds.... so little time.

coming up with all these variations is really fun. but the reality is it takes years for these birds to mature, so that we can see our work....... and Kat never got the patience gene.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

While we're on the topic of these lighter birds and sexing.
I know the barring is the male indicator in most colors, but what are the sex indicators on these lighter birds like the cameo, opals, and peach at these young ages?

 

[peachick]

the barring

 

[deerman]

Barring on most, unless they are blackshoulders,white,high % spalding or greens.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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I guess I have a butt load of hens then, cause none have ever had any barring at all, which was what I was hopeing on. They all look identical to Deermans peach on page one as far as any markings.

 

[deerman]

Yep that pic, is a peach hen,spilt silver pied. The barring is light, but still you can see it.

My peach spalding little harder to tell, because spalding hens still have barring. So female can be mistaking for males, but no barring are females.


You want some fun, start looking at blackshoulders(solid wing) in opal,purple,cameo,, and see which color is which. there are ways,but takes time

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Ha
That was gone be my next question. Those birds I got from Sid constist of breeder age opal blackshoulder tio and 2 opal barwing hens.As well as midnight black shoulders and bar wing trios. Next spring will be my first year with them and was just about to ask about that!LOL

 

[Kev]

Nothing to add except to say I really like opals! And IMO, BS opal hens are very very pretty.. My male BS opal is finally getting his solid wings, it does look nice.

My opals also are by far the calmest birds and a friend who does hatching for me is keeping two opal chicks mentions these two "have no fear". So I'm curious if this is something associated with opal or it's just something in these particular birds of mine..