Hen with swollen abdomen, labored breathing, but otherwise acting fine…

CalBickieMomma

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Hello chicken people!

It’s been a while since I posted on here, but alas, I once again have a chicken health issue.
I have a Rhode Island Red hen, 2 years old, with some issues. Her abdomen is swollen and is a little on the firm side (it isn’t hard, but not super squishy - I can gently poke at it and it gives some). It also feels like their are hard bumps at the bottom of her breast bone (between her legs).

I don’t think she has been laying, and she has a slight waddle to her walk. She finally had her first adult molt about three weeks ago and her breathing is labored after vigorous activity (jumping into my lap, running across the run to get snacks, struggling to get free if I’m holding her still to examine her).

All these symptoms were showing a couple weeks ago so I first tried to give her an epsom salt bath with no egg ejection. Thinking she might have egg yolk peritonitis (a month or two prior to this, she had passed two soft-shelled eggs during an epsom salt bath and was fine after that for quite a while), I read some forum posts and found some fish amoxicillin and started giving her that (she was much more lethargic during that first episode of what I thought was egg yolk peritonitis and I kept her inside during treatment). She started to improve over the five days I treated her and acted healthy and her swelling even went down.

Then came the second incident - the swollen abdomen and labored breathing. I treated her with the amoxicillin once again - for five days - and her breathing returned to normal (though she still has a bit of a waddle and the swollen abdomen).

Tonight when I checked on her, she seemed to be breathing heavily again (will see how she’s doing in the morning).

So, to sum things up …
Hen showed signs of egg yolk peritonitis about 1-2 months ago (swollen abdomen and lethargy). After amoxicillin treatment for 5-7 days, hen improved and went back outside with the flock.
More recently (about two weeks ago) same hen has swollen abdomen again with labored breathing (mostly after vigorous activity). Treated again for 5 days with amoxicillin. Breathing returned to normal and hen acting healthy (though abdomen still a bit swollen).
More info: She is eating normally (maybe a little less than usual because her crop isn’t super-stuffed at night) and acting normally as well (except for the slight waddle). She poops normally, as far as I can tell. She isn’t lethargic or fluffed up like she was the first time she was sick. Other than the swelling, slight waddle, and occasional heavy breathing, she’s acting fine and will even jump in my lap from time to time.

So, does anyone have any ideas? Anyone have this happen to them? I did purchase some 18 gauge needles and syringes to attempt an at-home drain (in case it’s water belly). We do have a vet who will see chickens, but I just had to take my old cat in for tests (and sadly had to euthanize him the next day 😢), so I really can’t afford another vet bill right now (and it would be horrible to lose another pet so soon 😭). The amoxicillin seems to help, but I’m not sure how long I can give a chicken amoxicillin before it stops working/causes harm. Thanks to anyone who has any feedback!
 
Sorry about your hen. It sounds like she may have salpingitis which can lead to egg yolk peritonitis or internal laying. Amoxicillin is one medicine used, and enrofloxacin is probably a bit better, if you don’t mind that it is banned for chickens due to emerging antibiotic resistant bacteria. Dosage of 10% Enrofloxacin liquid is 0.25ml for a 5 pound chicken given orally twice a day for 5 days. Many vets still prescribe it for chickens, and it is used a lot in other pet animals. Eggs should not be eaten for at least a month.

Reproductive disorders are common in hens, but usually when they are over two. Past exposure to infectious bronchitis virus can lead to reproductive disorders.
 
Sorry about your hen. It sounds like she may have salpingitis which can lead to egg yolk peritonitis or internal laying. Amoxicillin is one medicine used, and enrofloxacin is probably a bit better, if you don’t mind that it is banned for chickens due to emerging antibiotic resistant bacteria. Dosage of 10% Enrofloxacin liquid is 0.25ml for a 5 pound chicken given orally twice a day for 5 days. Many vets still prescribe it for chickens, and it is used a lot in other pet animals. Eggs should not be eaten for at least a month.

Reproductive disorders are common in hens, but usually when they are over two. Past exposure to infectious bronchitis virus can lead to reproductive disorders.
Thanks so much! She does seem to improve when I give her the amoxicillin. I could try to drain her, but I don’t want to be poking at her if she isn’t swollen due to fluids trapped inside. Since she’s still in pretty decent health (not running around too much, but not sitting, or fluffed up, or drooping her tail and her comb and wattles are nice and red, AND she’s eating pretty normally and has healthy poop (I’ve been letting her sleep in the nesting box since it’s easier to get into than getting up on the perch, and I can see what her poop looks like in the morning)), so I’ll just keep an eye on her and keep treating her. I might try a warm epsom salt bath tomorrow and maybe use a latex glove and petroleum jelly to see if she has any eggs to expel (or wait until her breathing returns to normal so I don’t stress her too much)). I’ll also look into the other antibiotic you suggested (though may not be able to get it here in California :idunno). Thanks again!!
 
I have gotten it from jedds.com, but they are out of it. Here is another place that has it:
https://allbirdproducts.com/products/enrofloxacin-10
Thank you! I actually found it there a few days ago and it’s on its way! I have her on amoxicillin right now. Would you recommend I finish up a five day run with that first (her first dose was on Friday), and then start using the enrofloxacin? Or stop the amoxicillin now and then start with the enrofloxacin when it arrives? Should I wait a period of time after the amoxicillin before starting the enrofloxacin and if so, how many days?

Thanks again for all the help. Right now she seems about the same as she was last week - still swollen with the more labored breathing, but still getting about and active enough to pick on/chase off the two youngest pullets and peck me at roosting time when I‘m just trying to give her nice pets :rolleyes:. She even jumped into my lap a couple of times when I sit on the plastic chair I’ve got set up in their run. Her comb and wattles are still red and she’s still eating and drinking and putting herself to bed in the raised nesting boxes. I’m hoping she just doesn’t get any worse. Still might try an epsom salt bath, but at a time where I can take the extra time to do it because she likes to fight against anything I attempt to make her better :th. Anyway, thanks again!
 
I lost my Eloise today :hit. My mom and I finally tried to drain her. We got out about 30-40 mL of fluid, and then I took her out of the towel to check on her and she was in respiratory distress. She passed rather quickly (less than five minutes) and I stayed with her as she slipped away.

I think maybe we waited too long to drain off liquid (I was so afraid of doing it wrong and hurting her) and maybe her organs were worse than I thought (her breathing seemed a little more labored today despite her seeming in pretty good shape the past weeks or so).

This really sucks and I’m devastated, but at least I know she won’t linger for weeks or months or years. I think she somehow got liquid in her lungs and was wondering if any of you know if that can happen under stress (I am feeling guilty thinking maybe I held on to her too hard while trying to keep her still as we drained her (she’s always fought against taking her antibiotics and such)). Maybe her heart just couldn’t take the stress.

Anyway, I am hoping this incident doesn’t turn me away from trying to drain again someday in the future if another one of my hens needs it done. Thank you to everyone who has commented with tips on how to help. I really appreciate it:love.
 

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