HERE is where we are going to talk about a sustainable meat bird flock

I think $60 a doz is excessive. I only paid $10 or $15 (it's been a few years, I forget exactly how much, but I know I paid about $60 for a breeding pair, and 2 dozen fertile eggs. I think the adult birds were $40 for the pair.) for Brahmas from a show breeder. The eggs were from ribbon winning SQ birds. The pair of breeders (buff Brahmas) were not SQ, but from SQ stock. The eggs were 1 doz light Brahma, and 1 doz buff Brahma. SQ Brahmas are not all that easy to find, either. Harder than Buckeyes, around here. I had to drive almost 5 hours (one way) to get them.

There are a lot of BYC'ers with Buckeyes. Several SQ, or close, at least pure bred and not half leghorn or some such. I wouldn't bother with hatchery stock, you'd most likely get poor examples, due to dilution of bloodlines with layer breeds. It's really hard to do any serious breeding experiments if you use hatchery stock.

Ohio seems to be the best place to find them, maybe you could post to find a BYC'er that may be making a trip to OK or maybe KS or TX? Depending on where you are, maybe you could arrange transport and meet them somewhere.

I am no longer buying shipped eggs for hatching, for the time being. I've just not done well with them, though my own eggs hatch beautifully.
 
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Oh. So you're an unpaid volunteer, then?

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NO, just stating the obvious , proven facts of long standing husbandry of beef and chickens leading to a sumptuous pleasing meal that advances one's quality of life. I have NEVER assigned any positive or negative message regarding Mansanto. Contrary to some self appointed spokesperson's attempts to misguide some into their idea of a utopian life.
 
Pepper48_98, have you checked with ALBC to see if there are any other Buckeye breeders near you? Another thing you can do is look up poultry show judges in your state, and see if you can contact one of them. They may very well know who's raising what, and they'll know which ones are good.
 
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NO, just stating the obvious , proven facts of long standing husbandry...

Factory farming is not husbandry.

What husbands can't work in factory farms?
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Sorry couldn't resist.
 
I am only on page 12 so forgive me if this question has been answered already. But when cross breeding to get nice big birds at as young as age as possible do I need to have birds that don't feather out fast so that the energy goes into the meat and not the feathering? Should I be breeding slow feathering birds together?

I have read that 14-20 weeks and alot of posters are getting good size but doesn't the meat become tough at 14 weeks for Roos due to the testosterone kicking in?

When breeding large birds such as Jersey Giants, Orpingtons ect. doesn't the bird develop the big bones first and then fill in? Wouldn't using them for meat birds be wasting time and money waiting for them to fill in with meat? They may have size but it would be bone right?

I have butchered my White Rock and Delaware roos at about 14 weeks. The White rock was easier to get into the cavity and weighed more and had more meat on it. Not that it was as big as I wanted, but I didn't want tough either.

I have Dark Cornish and weighed them the other day. One roo is five pounds and one is six and they are 24 weeks old. That doesn't seem very big to me. I had heard these were big birds. Granted they are hatchery. The hens seem alot bigger but I haven't gone and weighed them yet.

Faverolles are supposed to be good meat birds and mine is only five pounds at 30 weeks. He is all feathers!
 
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Factory farming is not husbandry.

Really? Hmm I wonder just how many farms you have actually been on.​

What can I say........... I just love this group of people
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Hey, just incase anyone wants to stay on topic, my BR turkeys didn't make it through the hatch
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Still hoping for a sustainable (oh wait... I mean renewable) flock in the works for 2010!!!
 

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