i had a chick pip out the wrong end. i decided that i didn't want to risk losing it, so i helped it. normally, i use tooth picks and slowly pick away the shell and membrane, just enough for the chick to work it out from there. i do this over my sink so i don't make too much of a mess. well, i dropped this one! right into the garbage disposal!! i squirreled my hand down in there to fish him out and he's now in the incubator. i really don't have much faith in him making it, but time will tell. poor thing came into the world the wrong way, then met me!