I'm a "New Egg" but I finally built my Feeder and Waterer. TSC wanted $40 for a waterer which I feel is outrageous. This is sort of instructions/bragging about my accomplishment. I know people have posted this on here but let me gloat. I had a 2 - 5 gallon buckets laying around from when I was big into brewing beer. Since I don't drink anymore I put them to use. I purchased 2 - 12" plant trays (heavy plastic) from Ace Hdwe for about $3.50/each. I drilled a 1/2" hole in the center of each bucket and plant tray. I cut a 10 1/4" piece of 2x4 and placed it between one of the buckets and one of the trays. 10 1/4" because then the weight of the feed would would rest on the 2x4 and not the plastic. I ran a 4" 1/2 inch bolt through the centers with washer, lock washer and nut. I then cut 1/2 moon shaped holes in the bottom of the bucket for the feed to fall into the tray. Feeder! $4 approx. I then ran a 4" 1/2 bolt through the other bucket placing rubber washers between the bolt head and washer/lock nut. After assembling I then made marks on the bucket to indicate where I'd drill the holes. Approx. 1" from the top of the tray. I took it apart to drill the holes then re-assembled. Waterer! $4 approx. I have a coop framed with 2" angle iron and 2" steel pipe. I hung them from the center support using rope about 6-8" from the ground. Supplies: 2 - 5 gallon buckets with lids 2 - 12" plant trays (heavy plastic ones so they wouldn't break easily) 1 - 2x4 which I accumulate from dumpster diving at construction sites 2 - rubber washers 2 - 4 1/2" bolts 2 - 1/2" nuts 4 - 1/2" washers 4 - 1/2" lock washers. Thanks for letting me gloat!