Horse people... Do you any have expereince with sarcoids?

[bkreugar]

Oh and she's a not very typey bay, not grey.

 

[welsummerchicks]

There are a lot of myths about sarcoids - that they cannot be removed without growing back more aggressively, that nothing works.

Freezing, exterra and other treatments are quite successful.

Sarcoids do not mean the animal's immune system is 'weakened'.

 

[bkreugar]

Talked with Trainers vet today. He is off oppinion ALWAYS treat. The practice's standard procedure is CUT away all that you can, then treat with one of the 2 topical chemotherapy drugs. Which one depends on which kind it is. Horse is tied , drug is applied, horse must stand tied for 10-15 minutes, then she must wear a neck cradle the rest of day.

I asked why cut instead of freeze, he said freezing "cauterizes" it somewhat, and they want it open to recieve the chemo drug. They said they came to this as their practice's standard procedure because it is based on the Ohio vet school's study testing effeciacy of ALL options except electro therapy. THIS therapy had the lowest rate of reoccurance. So I am mostly feeling better about it , although not happy he won't give me success numbers for THEIR procedures. It is reasonably priced at less than $200. Chemo drug is used for a week to 10 days.
They say even if it comes back it would NOT make her unrideable, no matter where it would come back. SO I am leaning towards the treatment but not ecstatic about it.

 

[Longhorns&Chickens]

That is really interesting! I have gray arab mare and she has a couple near her tail head, and every one I contacted said leave them alone, so I have. She is healthy and they don't seem to bother her. Let me know what else you find out...now I'm curious.

 

[ReikiStar]

Ok, going to share our experience and plug a guy's product that did what a vet was having trouble accomplishing. In short, we have a chestnut TB/Paint mare. She had aural plaque for years. Different vets said...it's common, just leave it. I hated the stuff but followed the vets' advice. Mistake. It grew into a large sarcoid on the inside of her ear. Almost a quarter size. Our holistic vet did one session of freezing. I didn't like the results. Pretty much nothing. The edges fell off but I knew I wasn't going to spend $160 a pop for her to do 2 or 3 more sessions. Our vet mentioned using "bloodroot" as another option if freezing didn't work. I found a product made by a horticulturist, his website is cleanhorse.com. The concept with sacroids is they are pretty much like warts. The body doesn't see it as any different from other tissues so it gives it a nice blood supply and lets this thing grow and exist. Supposedly, according to the Cleanhorse guy, bloodroot helps the body recognize the sarcoid tissue like a foreign body and mobilizes the immune system to attack the tissue. He claims it works much faster than the bloodroot form the vets use. It took us from late April to late August, maybe because we took it really slow but that sucker is gone! Nothing but nice pink tissue where the sarcoid was.

We were going on vacation in June and that week the back of her ear looked all swollen and it was warm to the touch. I thought it was infected so we called the regular vet out. Aside from him telling us it was a normal reaction because there was a lot of "action" going on in there, he also said that if it doesn't get better she'll lose half of her ear (nice!). I thought it was really odd that he lamented how he has a case he's been working on for a long time and he wishes he was having the progress we were! I waited for him to ask me about how to get the product, but true to form, his schooling wouldn't allow him to consider anything that didn't come from a pharmaceutical company...

Anyway, the Cleanhorse guy has been using this product to help people get rid of cancerous tumors.

If you're not squeamish, and don't mind picking off parts of the sarcoid to get down to fresh, bloody tissues to apply this bloodroot paste, I would highly recommend giving his product a go. One tiny jar was all we needed. We still have plenty. We applied it every few days and chipped away at it every few days. Burt, (I think that's his name) is really talkative and always available to help you out.

 

[Frogdogtimestwo]

I have heard the same thing from other owners of having good luck with that cream. I plan on ordering it if and when our (23 yr grey Arab) geldings start interfering with bridle or saddle placement, so far they are on his tail, and neck.

 

[toochicky]

Our horse had one back when I lived with parents. We left it alone. The vet that we had come to the farm suggested we leave it unless it was in a spot that could be irritated easily (such as a spot where your saddle would rub against it or the halter.)

 

[Rusty Hills Farm]

Perhaps this link will help:
http://www.miravalandalusians.com/garbosa/garbosa.htm

There is some very interesting information on Cimetidine. I don't know if this is even relevant for you or not. Hopefully the link will provide you with enough information for you to decide if it is worth pursuing any further.

HTH


Rusty

edited to add another link that may be helpful: http://www.thehorse.com/ViewArticle.aspx?ID=339 You do have to register to read it, but registration doesn't cost anything. The article is specific to sarcomas and melanomas in horses and mentions a variety of treatments for both.

 

[michickenwrangler]

Quote:
My mare has one near her anus that has been there since she was a yearling. Vet said to leave it. It hasn't changed in size other than growing slightly. She developed a second one on the underside of her tail. At 19 years old, I'm not messing with it. She'll live or die at this point.