Horse Talk

[Bunnylady]

Quote: The stimulation of nursing produces oxytocin. Nursing moms call it the "happy hormone."

 

[PeepersMama]

Honestly, unless you NEED him weaned for whatever reason, I would let her wean him, she will kick him off of her sometime around now. If you want to work the mare, turn the colt loos in the ring, pony him off of her out on trail rides, start using his draw to be close to her to help you train him, then you can start taking him places without her if they can both handle that. My colt was over a year old when I got him, but his mother wouldn't allow them to be separated until he was close to 2 years old. If you took him out of sight she would plow down a fence to get near him again... She was a very strange mare, she would freak out if he wasn't near her, but when he was she bit him viciously all the time, but when she would get really worked up, he would "nurse" (she was dry and not producing milk anymore) and she would calm back down... very strange.

Its a mini though, right @ChickenLover200? Trail riding wouldn't really work

 

[ShrekDawg]

She was probably broke to ride before foundering. And, a lot of horses have come back from foundering with shoeing and diet, so IF someone put the time and money into her to get her sound, she may be rideable due to the fact that she is broke already.

Ohhh that makes sense, especially since they say she doesn't know much of anything

 

[abigalerose]

​The buckskin is intact, so I bet they are banking on his color and his sperm to get $4k for him. He is only a yearling, but even at that age, if you are asking $4k, you should be selling a fully halter broke - lead - load - stands for farrier/vet - clippers, etc. animal, NOT "shy around people because I haven't handled him much since he was weaned". There is NOTHING spectacular about his papers to warrant $4k. He is prime example of a "backyard breeder" and the fodder they produce for the slaughter pipeline.

The mare is $800 because she is lame, and not the sort of lame that it is easy to recover from... If she is foundered in both fronts?????? You are looking at a lifetime of micro-management to prevent further founders IF, and that is big IF, you can get her over this round... They are selling a uterus, which is a CRAPPY thing to do - you should NEVER EVER breed a horse that is lame like that. It is abusive to ask that mare to not only support her own weight on her foundered feet, but then the added weight of a fetus/fluids and not to mention that a prenatal diet is NOT conducive to a foundered horse.

My thoughts exactly. I mean the colt has nice papers, but he's kind of on the thin gangly side, and shy, and he's not some magical color. I just don't see how his papers would make him worth $4,000. I've talked to this person before about a horse, a horse I really wanted but they were asking WAY too much for, so I happen to know that they buy most or all of their horses at sales, and then resell them. So I would say that they don't have close to that much in him either. But anyways, barely being broke to lead, built the way he is, and having nice but not amazing papers.. I was just like what??
And as for the mare, I'd say being 15.2 hands, and "broke" and registered, she probably would be worth $800, except for the that's "broke but doesn't know much" which means? what? That you can put a saddle on and she doesn't buck but that's about all she knows? And that she's foundered. And IMO ugly. I would say they should drop her price too and just find a nice pasture pet home that has a lot of time to devote to her issues.

And not to mention they say she's broke to ride? I would think it's abusive to ride her too

Agreed. They have to of been riding her to know she's broke and to know she doesn't know much. I doubt that's good for her in her condition

 

[ChickenLover200]

Honestly, unless you NEED him weaned for whatever reason, I would let her wean him, she will kick him off of her sometime around now. If you want to work the mare, turn the colt loos in the ring, pony him off of her out on trail rides, start using his draw to be close to her to help you train him, then you can start taking him places without her if they can both handle that. My colt was over a year old when I got him, but his mother wouldn't allow them to be separated until he was close to 2 years old. If you took him out of sight she would plow down a fence to get near him again... She was a very strange mare, she would freak out if he wasn't near her, but when he was she bit him viciously all the time, but when she would get really worked up, he would "nurse" (she was dry and not producing milk anymore) and she would calm back down... very strange.

Its a mini though, right @ChickenLover200? Trail riding wouldn't really work

yes. They are minis. Thing is, I've been having problems halter breaking the colt and getting respect. Multiple people suggested that weaning would be best. I wanted to let her wean him, but I don't know. He only seems to nurse once-three times a day now. I take him out sometimes by himself and I take her out by herself, but they kinda freak out if we go too far. And vet suggested they be apart before he's a year old so he can be gelded. I do want to put my stallion with the mini mare, but not so soon. I want to give her a break from raising kids. Lol.

 

[abigalerose]

Those of you who are good at math and stuff! I need your help!
If I buy two 60' round pens, and put them together, would that give me a 60' x 120' arena?
And if so, is that a decent size for practicing reining?

 

[res]

http://www.wrightfarmgates.com/calculator.htm

Round pen calculator... tells you how many panels you need of various length. So if you used 12' panels, you would have 34 total panels to make two 60' round pens. The total perimeter of a 60x120 arena is 360', so you would need 30 12' panels to make the arena.

So the answer is yes, you would have enough panels.

 

[abigalerose]

http://www.wrightfarmgates.com/calculator.htm

Round pen calculator... tells you how many panels you need of various length. So if you used 12' panels, you would have 34 total panels to make two 60' round pens.  The total perimeter of a 60x120 arena is 360', so you would need 30 12' panels to make the arena.

So the answer is yes, you would have enough panels.

Thank you! Im looking at two 60' round pens and if I get them I'd like to put them together and make an arena, I just wasn't sure what size arena that would give me. So, would that be a good size for loping and doing some reining?
And also, for anyone who knows anything about arenas, can they be set up on a sloped area, as long as it's really smooth?

 

[Kusanar]

http://www.wrightfarmgates.com/calculator.htm

Round pen calculator... tells you how many panels you need of various length. So if you used 12' panels, you would have 34 total panels to make two 60' round pens.  The total perimeter of a 60x120 arena is 360', so you would need 30 12' panels to make the arena.

So the answer is yes, you would have enough panels.

Thank you! Im looking at two 60' round pens and if I get them I'd like to put them together and make an arena, I just wasn't sure what size arena that would give me. So, would that be a good size for loping and doing some reining?
And also, for anyone who knows anything about arenas, can they be set up on a sloped area, as long as it's really smooth?

A 60 foot round pen is big enough to lose in, so that shouldn't be a problem for the size you are talking about, I have never done reining, but I would imagine that the large fast circles would be hard, and probably the sliding stops since you don't have much runway to work with.
As for the slope, it really depends on how sloped. Slightly sloped can be good, water will run off, too much slope and your footing will start drifting downhill and out of your ring. I know, my arena has a small dip in one area and that part is now pretty much just mud and all of the sand is on the other side of the fence.

 

[abigalerose]

A 60 foot round pen is big enough to lose in, so that shouldn't be a problem for the size you are talking about, I have never done reining, but I would imagine that the large fast circles would be hard, and probably the sliding stops since you don't have much runway to work with.
As for the slope, it really depends on how sloped. Slightly sloped can be good, water will run off, too much slope and your footing will start drifting downhill and out of your ring. I know, my arena has a small dip in one area and that part is now pretty much just mud and all of the sand is on the other side of the fence.

Maybe small slides though? I don't think I'll be practicing any big slides or big fast circles for a while, and I can always trailer to a real arena for that.
I'll have to take a look at how sloped it is and see if it would be a problem. I wish I knew someone who could come see it in person and tell me if it'd be a good spot