House Divided by Religion

[EweSheep]

Too early to be in midlife crisis!

 

[StrawberryHouseMouse]

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Can you find out if they have a website? Might be helpful.

They don't. Its pretty much a gathering of people, at this one couple's house. Angie and Bob (I wouldn't give out the last names even if I knew them just for privecy purposes).

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

The "no bread" is actually "no yeast." and is a part of the Jewish celebration of Passover, commemorating the Exodus from Egypt when God told the Jews through Moses to bake their bread unleavened because they would have to leave Egypt rapidly. There are plenty. of non-leavened breads that you could have. HOWEVER, just because he has chosen to follow what sounds like a cult (and I do not believe that all messianic jews are a cult) does not require that you do so.

You seriously need to get an understanding of the practices and beliefs that this particular group espouses. It will help you communicate with him if you have an idea of the viewpoint that he is being given. Ask if they have any books or publications that detail their beliefs (and practices). I am not by any means proposing that you convert--just that you know exactly what you are up against. It would also help you converse with him if you learn the history behind the various Christian holidays--both the religious history and the cultural history. Nearly any library or bookstore will have books with this information. I would say to use google, but unfortunately there is a lot of inaccurate information out there as well as accurate. You might check wikipedia--it goes through a pretty good vetting process.

Was your husband raised as a Jew? Is he Jewish by birth? Why did he start going to these Sabbath Services?

I will say that you should probably have chosen to celebrate his birthday with him on a different day, since it is obvious that going to the Sabbath Services has become important to him. I do see how the very long hours are stressful to you--going to church for a few hours is one thing, disappearing for 18-24 hours is something else entirely.

Okay, I just saw your last post. I don't believe there is anything anywhere in Jewish religious texts about demons. And the only thing in the New Testament is about casting demons out of people, and is not particularly graphic. Any church or faith that causes children to have nightmares and be afraid is just plain wrong. There is nothing in hte book of Esther that indicates anything about Queen Vashti being told to come naked--rather it is about her being prideful and treating her husband like crap! (Kind of the way your hubby is treating you).

 

[PaulaJoAnne]

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Can you find out if they have a website? Might be helpful.

They don't. Its pretty much a gathering of people, at this one couple's house. Angie and Bob (I wouldn't give out the last names even if I knew them just for privecy purposes).

But surely they are following the rights of another group......
Reason I ask, is because there are Messianic Jews, and then there are strange splinter groups that sound like the one he is involved in.

 

[agnes_day]

my husband likes anime..unfortunately for me, he has liked it since high school..way before everyone and their brother started liking it.
it annoys me to no end.

but i would seriously tell your husband to back off..the whole thing sounds very weird and creepy.

 

[maplesky7]

I have been in a similar circumstance... very very similar.

You say you believe in God then you should pray for your husband to have his heart softened and to see the light about the truth in God's word. We all should help you and intercede in prayer for you and your husband and children.

This has become cultish and it has similar conceptions in organizations that I have come across... so help me God to stay His course and may those who be fooled by the deception be made to see more clearly. It is very easy for someone to get wrapped up into it. My head was spinning when my husband started behaving very much like yours. It was hell on earth and I can empathize completely with you and your children.

Eventually, my husband grew out of it. Something happened that he questioned and so it went away with the wind but then later down the road... a few years in fact... so did my husband go away with the wind. I often will say, "His mind changes like the wind and you never know which way he's going to go."

I am in the middle of our divorce right now and I have to say, it's hard. It's most definitely hard and there are many unpleasant things that have transpired over the years and that have continued but are less and now there are court mandates that have to be followed so it is much better.

I fear for me and my girls safety at times. Since he joined the Army I at least have the comfort that he is 1000 miles away presently but that will change and soon. I hope and pray he decides to re-up for everyone sake. But what I brought it up for was because I wanted to let you know.... there is a peace that I had almost forgotten about without his presence. I know he has moved on and I am ok with that. It busies his mind for feeling contempt towards me for not "following him and his ways."

But I have trusted my God to be with me, comfort me, and help guide me. What happens in a situation like this when someone starts to become the enforcer...tempers flare and they are not the spiritual leader as God has called them to be. It can become an abusive situation--mentally, spiritually, and even physically. The Gospel says a woman is to obey her husband but in the same breath... the Gospel instructs the man to take heed his wife. My husband did not take head his wife and as many here have sought to take a glimpse into your story... in this situation the husband has essentially turned into a dictator. Which then in turn the wife assumes guilt for not "obeying" her husband but the inner truth to this is a man and woman are equal. Someone else here also conveyed.... a man and a woman are equal. God made Eve from Adam's rib... his side... it is very intentional how God created us. We are not in front or behind our mate... we are to his SIDE... equal. Each completing one another.


I would suggest counseling is in strict order. You almost need that 3rd impartial person who can be the referee when you both talk to each other. If anything you need to have that talk about beliefs and how your lives as a family will carry through each of your varying view points and if it is to work... each person must give respect and live a give and take world that can accommodate the family without taking from anothers beliefs and living in harmony despite differences. It will be work for both of you... all of you in fact.

I believe the best thing your friends here can do for you is to lift your family up in prayer that God may do whats best for everyone. Should it be that they can unite as a family unit following His word to the best of their knowledge and may His word and light become a shining beam to guide them on His path so there is no mistaking is what my heart cries out to happen Jesus and I pray that unto You, My Savior. Or should it be sound for the wife to turn from someone who is choosing a questionable source of interpretation of the Gospel and thus has become unequally yolked and is in danger of traveling down the road to false prophesies... may You forever guide her and her children and give them what they need in this world. And so help us to pray for those who have lost themselves among the wolves and are blind to it. So we plead for clarity and discernment in Jesus Holy name. Amen.

Most humbly,
Your sister in Christ,
Gretchen

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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I would also check your bank accounts.

I'm sorry, but..

Not reallyh--too many cults start by brainwashing their members to give up everything else--family, friends, $$$. Not necessarily in that order.

 

[AngieChick]

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Midlife crisis?

He's 26 lol

Well then...

Selfish crisis?

 

[PaulaJoAnne]

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Amen!

 

[redhen]

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I'm sorry, but..

Not reallyh--too many cults start by brainwashing their members to give up everything else--family, friends, $$$. Not necessarily in that order.

Yeah..i get that.
Its too bad.. because they REALLY dont know that they are being brainwashed... they really and truly believe what they are involved in is a good thing. and everyone else is crazy and going to hell...