How do I make official a color project?

[ChicksNherps]

I want to start a color project starting next year for this color because I think it is gorgeous and pops up every once in a while but people aren't sure what to do with it



She is from partridge eggs, but is sort of a mix of buff partridge and paint. You can't see it very well here but she has blueish silver mixed in and dark blue/black spots.
How would I go about doing this? Is it possible to make it a recognized color after a lot of working with it? How would I register it?

Also, genetics wise, what should I try breeding her with to get more? I also have a blue splash that should be good for it too. Maybe a buff roo for both of them? or partridge for my splash and buff for this one? All input is appreciated!

 

[Me & Jack]

I want to start a color project starting next year for this color because I think it is gorgeous and pops up every once in a while but people aren't sure what to do with it



She is from partridge eggs, but is sort of a mix of buff partridge and paint. You can't see it very well here but she has blueish silver mixed in and dark blue/black spots.
How would I go about doing this? Is it possible to make it a recognized color after a lot of working with it? How would I register it?

Also, genetics wise, what should I try breeding her with to get more? I also have a blue splash that should be good for it too. Maybe a buff roo for both of them? or partridge for my splash and buff for this one? All input is appreciated!

Well, the first step towards working on a new and recognized variety is being able to consistently reproduce that color, which means if it only pops up once in a while it's really considered an "oops" bird and not a variety. You'd need to be able to reproduce about 50% of your hatch in this color pattern. So far I don't think anyone's come close to being able to reproduce it although some might be working on it--or something similar. So, the first thing I'd say you should concentrate on is being able to reproduce the color pattern you like with each breeding. Once you've done that it would be worth contacting Bren or someone else from the ASBC to find out how to begin the process and paperwork for having the variety recognized. Keep in mind that it took 20+ years from the time lavender was first worked on in Silkies before it became a recognized variety. It was a long road but worth it in the end.

 

[ChicksNherps]

Well, the first step towards working on a new and recognized variety is being able to consistently reproduce that color, which means if it only pops up once in a while it's really considered an "oops" bird and not a variety. You'd need to be able to reproduce about 50% of your hatch in this color pattern. So far I don't think anyone's come close to being able to reproduce it although some might be working on it--or something similar. So, the first thing I'd say you should concentrate on is being able to reproduce the color pattern you like with each breeding. Once you've done that it would be worth contacting Bren or someone else from the ASBC to find out how to begin the process and paperwork for having the variety recognized. Keep in mind that it took 20+ years from the time lavender was first worked on in Silkies before it became a recognized variety. It was a long road but worth it in the end.

Thanks =) I am going to try to consistently breed this color, and I have heard you can line breed at least once right? what is better, brother to sister or father to daughter/mother to son?

 

[Me & Jack]

Thanks =) I am going to try to consistently breed this color, and I have heard you can line breed at least once right? what is better, brother to sister or father to daughter/mother to son?

The definition of line breeding is to breed female offspring to the sire or grand-sire and male offspring to the dam or grand-dam. It is not recommended to breed siblings, which would be considered "inbreeding". It takes two or three years to really see what traits are consistently popping up -- good traits or bad.

 

[ChicksNherps]

The definition of line breeding is to breed female offspring to the sire or grand-sire and male offspring to the dam or grand-dam. It is not recommended to breed siblings, which would be considered "inbreeding". It takes two or three years to really see what traits are consistently popping up -- good traits or bad.

Okay that's what I thought, I have seen differing opinions so that clears it up.

 

[chickendales]

Okay that's what I thought, I have seen differing opinions so that clears it up.

the closer the line breeding the less you well see diffrence in there off spring the the top breeders in most breed heavly line breed

 

[chickendales]

I want to start a color project starting next year for this color because I think it is gorgeous and pops up every once in a while but people aren't sure what to do with it



She is from partridge eggs, but is sort of a mix of buff partridge and paint. You can't see it very well here but she has blueish silver mixed in and dark blue/black spots.
How would I go about doing this? Is it possible to make it a recognized color after a lot of working with it? How would I register it?

Also, genetics wise, what should I try breeding her with to get more? I also have a blue splash that should be good for it too. Maybe a buff roo for both of them? or partridge for my splash and buff for this one? All input is appreciated!

so it would be a splash partridge

 

[ChicksNherps]

so it would be a splash partridge

sort of, but they are lighter than partridge. Some people call them "creamsicle" which is what I put for my AOV registration for our show. Hopefully it's accepted