How do you worm your chickens?

Little Chicky

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I've been poking around BYC but have come up with so many different (and often opposite) suggestions for worming. I'll only be getting three chickens, and I want a natural, preventative de-wormer that still keeps the eggs safe. I've heard pumpkin seeds, DE (is it really totally safe?), and many others, and I want to get it cleared up! What do you suggest?
 
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From what I've read, pumpkin seeds have been proven ineffective, and DE, while safe internally, may or may not control worm growth. I have not read of a proven control for worms that does not require discarding eggs for a week or two. If you find one, or someone knows of one, let us know.
 
As a medical biochemist who works in a medical lab, I have seen lots of worms in my time, both from humans and animals. Personally, if I have any reason to believe that any of my animals (dogs, cats, chickens) have worms (get in the habit of watching stools) I take a fecal specimen with suspicious stuff to my vet for testing. Be sure the specimen is fresh (within the last hour and transport with ice or a cool pack in hot weather) or keep refrigerated until you can get it to the vet within a few hours. The vet can tell you what kind of parasites are present and which medication will eradicate the problem.

I have read quite a bit of the info on pumpkin seeds, DE, etc and I'm not convinced on its effectiveness. Any medication you use will require a withdrawal period (I usually use two weeks after the last dose as my standard since many meds have not been tested on chickens but vets know what works, pharmaceutical companies are just not going to test the meds on EVERY species of animal as the testing is too expensive).

Since I live in a VERY dry region that does not bode well for most parasites I have very little risk with my animals. But if I lived where parasites are a routine thing I would certainly think about collecting stool specimens every 3-6 months for testing and proceed accordingly with treatment.
 
Fecal exams are of course an excellent approach. However, I have read on here that worms often do not show up in these exams, but are still present in the chicken. I don't have any personal experience with this.
 
ddawn...absolutely true. A fresh specimen is the best bet and I always suggest that people include anything suspicious (wormy, egg-like, mucosy/bloody areas) and from several different "piles". You are more likely to find them this way. But even with the best technique they can still be missed. I'm guessing a good vet would give instructions for worming if symptoms are present.
 
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Excellent recommendations, I am sure.

I only wish more of us had access to good vet care for chickens, never mind lab personnel who put your level of dedication into their work.
 
You know guys.....
I have had many vets over the years.....horses, dogs, cats etc and unless you have one that specializes in birds no one is going to waste time with fecal testing on chicken poop. They will ask you if they have ever been wormed and when the last time was and then recommend (sell you) a specific product. After all its not going to hurt.
I worked for a short time for the USDA APHIS with some of the best large animal vets I have ever met but unless you are a major poultry producer with millions invested, your backyard flock doesn't mean a hill of beans to them. Small animal vets make a lot more money (thats the name of the game) clipping Fido's nails and clearing up Buffy's mange.
Sorry to be such a grump I guess I'm just in a fowl mood today.
 
Our vet (dogs/horses/chickens) charge the same to look over anything chicken as they do anything dog. It shouldn't matter to the vet if you are paying the bill. My vets will be "bothered" by anything I want them to be "bothered" about. We took our big roo to our vet last year. We ultimately lost him, but their bird specialist tried for him. I don't see any reason they wouldn't do a fecal on a chicken flock the same as they will do for my horses or dogs.
 

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