How many hens per rooster ?

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Hey everyone!

So we used to have 2 girls, wyandotte bantams. We placed 2 chicks with them as some of you may know. Some think it may be 2 roosters.

So let's say it are 2 roosters, then how many extra hens do I have to get? Because I would like them to stayn they are their babies :P

Would 5 or 6 other hens be enough?
 
How many hens your roosters would do best with depends on them. Some males can have a flock of 100 hens and still devote their time to killing other roosters. Other males are happy with just one hen. To make things a safer bet you should probably get at least two hens per rooster, because some of the hens may be loners, or ostracized from the main group, and the hens have their own preferences regarding males too, so one of your roosters may be far more popular than the other, and another consideration is that one of your males may be greedy. Some roosters never settle as long as they can see or hear hens that aren't all in one big group. In my flock they split off into pairs, little groups, and loners, and some have permanent associations, others temporary, some hens are very promiscuous, others 'monogamous', and the same is true of the males, some prefer just one hen, some will try to mate with them all.

Best wishes.
 
Nice answer. There is no ratio where all problems magically disappear. You can have the same problems with dozens of hens per rooster as you can with two roosters and two hens. I always advise to keep as few roosters as you can and still meet your goals. That's not because you are guaranteed problems but because you are more likely to have problems with more roosters.

I'll just add that the more space you have the better off you are. The more crowded you are with chickens in general but especially with multiple roosters the more likely they are to have problems. An important element on how chickens have learned to live together in a flock is that when there is a conflict the weaker runs away from the stronger or just avoids them to start with. If they don't have enough room to get away when some chasing is involved, there is more likely to be serious violence. That's especially true of roosters but also applies to flocks of nothing but hens.
 
Ok thanks for your advice:)

We will see then how it goes. We will definitly get some more chickens if both turn out to be roosters. So that we have about 6 hens in total.

They have a large area, 5 meter on 15 meter about. But ill probably have to adjust their chicken house, because there is one roosting bar that is high up, and I heard all chickens want to get on the highest one.
 
Ridgerunner's response is obviously pretty pertinent to your situation as having them caged alters flock dynamics a fair bit because when a subordinate cannot evacuate the alpha's territory, this can be perceived by the alpha as a challenge or disrespect, leading to the subordinate getting attacked and the situation escalating as the alpha gets more enraged and the subordinate gets more anxious but cannot escape.

Some chickens will behave entirely differently if able to freerange than they will if kept caged. In general the situation becomes more prone to violence, bullying and neuroses when chickens are kept permanently caged, which is unfortunately a necessary situation for many. In selecting against bullies I learnt to have odd days when I caged them all day to see which young adults of each new generation would take out their frustration on others. Some chooks do, some don't. I found selecting against bullies a quicker fix than managing bullies or separating them, but each to their own, my flock keeping methods are not for everyone.

Chickens need stimulation just like pretty much all other pets or livestock and often cages tend to cause their stimulation to depend on one another, not their environment which is often very limiting and boring. Studies done on zoo animals found that having 'L' shaped cages, with corners they couldn't see around, improved their quality of life and reduced stereotypies or expressions of repetitive, obsessive neurotic behavior as the animals did not cope with being able to see every wall or corner of their cage and have nothing to investigate or explore. With chooks some litter to dig in is highly beneficial.

Giving them the best nutrition you can goes a fair way towards stopping the overpopulation related stress and aggression which is in my experience is in most cases largely based on both genetics (inherited social behaviors specifically) and nutrition more so than on actual flock size alone, though flock size does play a definite role. Controlling pathogens and parasite levels is part of controlling overpopulation stress as this is one of the main reasons they are distressed by dense populations. Using hydrated agricultural lime on all soils they walk on will help there. (It's the same stuff used for adding to animal feeds).

With perches, because I have a mixed flock, I make them at varying heights up to the top level so bantams and chicks can get up there too as well as injured birds. (Strict selection I've practiced against bullies for many generations now allows injured or ill birds to remain with the flock without them being attacked but removing injured/ill birds is the best choice for the average flock). The lowest perches are only around 6 inches off the floor sometimes. The very lowest perches also serve the purpose of providing something to duck under for birds being targeted by dominant birds; for some reason few bullies want to stoop under something to pursue a victim. I think perhaps it makes them feel vulnerable. Sometimes breaking the mental pattern of behavior is enough to stop a bully from continuing to attack and sometimes all that is necessary for that is a simple obstacle in the way.

I ended up setting up the perches in such a way as to enable me to access them easily and prevent social disharmony. The highest perches are around chest height and basically form a crosshatched pattern all around the walls of the coops, so I can easily inspect them at night time whenever necessary no matter where they perch. The crosshatching pattern stops any one bird from dominating the whole perch as some will do, with the lower perches giving subordinates multiple access points without involuntarily offending any alphas, and it makes it easier for chooks to segregate themselves according to social status and so forth.

With a single long perch sometimes you get dominant birds who habitually start at one end and walk along knocking or pecking every subordinate off the perch until they get to their usual or chosen roosting spot, and they can repeat that night after night, sometimes leading to subordinates sleeping on the floor if the alpha got onto the perch just before full dark. The lower perches help there too, as birds who get knocked off at night time can often find their way to a perch just by touch and get off the floor which is obviously pretty beneficial if you get very cold nights.

Best wishes.
 

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