How many roosters per hen?

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Hello! :frow I have heard that the minimum is 10-15 hens per rooster, correct?

I have 4 cockerels who are started acting like they own the place (crowing and trying to fool around with the hens :rolleyes:) and 27 hens, do you think that that many hens will be enough for the 4 boys?

Thanks in advance! :)
 
1 rooster per 10 hens is a general rule of thumb.

It largely depends on the roosters... and hens...of course.

Too many hens to roosters, you aren't sure about fertility. Too few, and the girls are tattered with over breeding.

A senior roo can keep juniors in line if their temperaments are right. Older hens often teach a young roo how to be polite.

27 hens to 4 roosters would be about 6 to 7 hens each, however, likely the boys won't divvy things up neatly. Since you are introducing 4 roosters of the same age together, you'll likely see some tussles for the hens with a few over mated. Then likely you'll see an alpha rooster take charge with a junior at his side with the others lurking in the corners in submission.

How that all works out for the girls will vary. You may wish to divide the flock if troubles develop or get rid of a rooster or 2...or create a bachelor pad.

My thoughts.
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Hello! :frow I have heard that the minimum is 10-15 hens per rooster, correct?

I have 4 cockerels who are started acting like they own the place (crowing and trying to fool around with the hens :rolleyes:) and 27 hens, do you think that that many hens will be enough for the 4 boys?

Thanks in advance! :)

What's your purpose for having one or more cockerels? Are you a serious breeder? Or just want to be able to hatch your own eggs? Do you want pure bred chicks? (for example, if you had a flock of PBR, and BA, you might want to keep both a PBR and a BA cockerel. But, if you keep more than one cockerel, you run the risk of having the 2 or more boys ganging up on the weakest pullet in the flock, and doing serial matings where one will pin her down while the others gang up on her. This can cause serious injury to a pullet or hen. And it's distressing to watch. Personally, I'd eliminate all but one of your cockerels. My avatar roo has done a great job managing as many as 24 females and his fertility has been excellent. (though I'm not confident in his ability to provide good results next spring when he will be 4 years old.)

Unless you have a compelling reason to keep more than one cockerel, I'd only keep one. Unless you are going to be producing a LOT of chicks, the single male can be managed well to adequately provide you with plenty of hatching eggs.
 
Unless your birds are free range with a lot of space, 4 cockerels will run your hens ragged and may even negatively impact egg production. Right now their testosterone levels are sky high. As LG stated cockerels gang breeding hens can seriously injure them. A dominant mature rooster can help keep things under control.
 
What's your purpose for having one or more cockerels? Are you a serious breeder? Or just want to be able to hatch your own eggs? Do you want pure bred chicks? (for example, if you had a flock of PBR, and BA, you might want to keep both a PBR and a BA cockerel. But, if you keep more than one cockerel, you run the risk of having the 2 or more boys ganging up on the weakest pullet in the flock, and doing serial matings where one will pin her down while the others gang up on her. This can cause serious injury to a pullet or hen. And it's distressing to watch. Personally, I'd eliminate all but one of your cockerels. My avatar roo has done a great job managing as many as 24 females and his fertility has been excellent. (though I'm not confident in his ability to provide good results next spring when he will be 4 years old.)

Unless you have a compelling reason to keep more than one cockerel, I'd only keep one. Unless you are going to be producing a LOT of chicks, the single male can be managed well to adequately provide you with plenty of hatching eggs.

I didn't try to intentionally end up with 4 cockerels, I hatched 2 of them and bought the other two labeled as straight run.

Two Ayam Cemani roosters and two Dominiques. They are all pretty well behaved, the most dominant rooster (Ayam) has been trying to mount the hens but is not exactly 'rough' with the girls.
But as of late one of the Doms has been trying to mount my arm :rolleyes: He is still docile and loves to be held, but every time I get near him he pecks really hard.
 
Unless your birds are free range with a lot of space, 4 cockerels will run your hens ragged and may even negatively impact egg production. Right now their testosterone levels are sky high. As LG stated cockerels gang breeding hens can seriously injure them. A dominant mature rooster can help keep things under control.

They are free range and have tons of room. I know, you should hear them crowing in the morning! I will definitely watch out for gang breeding, I haven't seen it (and hopefully won't be seeing it any time soon!)
 
Keep an eye on that Dom. Your boot may be his next target. Seriously watch his behavior. Such aggression frequently escalates.
 
Oh, I am. He used to be such a sweetheart, but I've kept roosters before and have had to rehome one, so I am willing to do what's to needed if he takes it out on the hens.

I know, I once had such a sweet rooster and he quickly turned for the worse and had to be rehomed :(
 
Here's an old post by my friend Beekissed that might help you. Your Dom cockerel has blurred the lines between human and chicken. He needs some immediate education or you are going to have a serious reprobate on your hands.

Beekissed states:
I'm going to give you a clue on "rooster speak"....holding him down doesn't mean anything to him. If you'll watch how roosters interact between dominant ones and subordinate ones, there is rarely any, if ever, holding a bird down for a long time when there is an altercation. There is very quick flogging, gripping by the back of the head and flinging him away or getting him down and giving some savage pecking to the back of the head or neck. No holding him down and nothing else. That's a rooster on a hen maneuver, not rooster on rooster.

Because your rooster is attacking you, you are the subordinate in this picture. You are getting dominated by your bird simply because you are walking where a subordinate isn't supposed to be walking when a dominant is in the area. What you never see is a dominant rooster getting attacked by a subordinate rooster unless there is going to be a definite shift in power, at which time the sub will challenge the dom and win...or lose. So far you are losing and not even challenging.

If you want to win this battle, you must go on the offensive, not the defensive. He who attacks first, and is still claiming the area when the other guy leaves it, is the winner. Some people never have to go on the offensive because their movements in the coop are so decisive that they move and act like a dominant and a 2 ft. rooster is smart enough to recognize a dominant attitude and behavior...which is likely why he's never attacked your husband. Most men move more decisively than do women and children and they rarely step around a bird, but walk through them.

Carrying him around also doesn't mean anything to him...it just doesn't translate at all. His environment is that coop and run floor and that's where you need to speak to him, in a language he understands. Because they are quick on their feet and can evade you, you need a training tool like a long, limber, supple rod of some kind...cutting a nice switch from a shrub or tree that will lengthen your reach by 5 ft. really helps in this. Don't use a rake or broom because they are too clumsy and stiff and can put the hurts on the guy when you don't really mean to.

When you enter your coop, walk with decisive movements and walk directly towards your rooster. Move him away from the feeder and the rest of the flock and keep a slow, determined pressure on him until he leaves the coop. The stick will help you guide him. Then...wait patiently while he gets his bird mind around what just happened. He will try to come back in the coop...let him. When he gets a good bit into that coop, take your switch and give him a good smack on the fluffy feathers under his tail if you can aim it well. If you cannot, just smack the floor near him very hard and fast until he hops and runs and keep at it until he leaves the coop once again. Repeat this process until he is too wary to come back in the coop.

Feed your hens. When he tries to come to the feeder, you "attack" him with the switch...smack the wall by the pop door just as he tries to enter. If he makes it inside, pursue him with the stick either smacking the floor or tapping him on the back or the head until he leaves in a hurry. Make him stay outside while you sit there and enjoy watching your hens eat. Use the stick to keep him from the flock..just him. Don't worry about the hens running and getting excited when this is happening...they will get over it. This is for the future of your flock and your management of it.

When the hens have had a good tucker....leave the coop and let him come back in. Go out later and walk through that flock and use your legs to scatter birds if they get in your way...top roosters do not step to one side for any other bird in the flock. You shouldn't either. Take your stick and startle him with a smack on the floor next to him when he is least expecting it...make that bird jump and RUN. Make him so nervous around you that he is always looking over his shoulder and trying to get out of your way. THAT'S how he needs to be from now on in your lives together. Forget about pets or cuddles...this is a language and behavior he understands. You can hand feed him and such later...right now you need to establish that when you move, he moves...away. When you turn your back, he doesn't move towards you...ever.

Then test him...take your stick along, move around in the coop, bend over with your back turned to him, feed, water, etc....but keep one eye on that rooster. If he even makes one tiny step in your direction or in your "zone", go on the attack and run him clear on out of the coop. Then keep him out while everyone else is eating.

THAT'S how a dominant rooster treats a subordinate. They don't let them crow, mate or even eat in their space. If the subordinate knows his place and watches over his shoulder a lot, he may get to come and eat while the other rooster is at the feeder...but he doesn't ever relax if he knows what is good for him. At any given time the dominant will run him off of that feed and he knows it, so he eats with one eye toward the door. If he feels the need to crow, it's not usually where the dom can reach him...maybe across the yard.

If your rooster crows while you are there, move towards him and keep on the pressure until he stops. He doesn't get to crow while you are there. He can crow later...not while you are there.

It all sounds time consuming but it really isn't...shouldn't take more than minutes for each lesson and you can learn a lot as you go along. And it can be fun if you venture into it with the right attitude....this is rooster training that really works if you do it correctly. This can work on strange roosters, multiple roosters and even old roosters...they can all learn. You rule the coop...now act like it. Carrying is for babies...you have a full grown rooster on your hands, not a baby.
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